Vic Fires and camping dissapointment

Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 10:06
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I had been hoping to go camping up around the Jamieson area over Xmas / Nyear however the roads were closed but once re-opened the camping grounds were then closed off by Parksvic. I was very annoyed because I had been up to the area on boxing day and spoke to one of the guys who was clearing the last of the trees of the road from Vicroads who said we should be right for the following week. So after hearing people on the radio / TV and reading articles in the paper we packed up and headed up that way only to be told by the local Police man that Parksvic had now closed the camping grounds. He was just as annoyed as I was. So I headed to the local caravan park who gave me the following quote for an unpowered site to set up a tent ($28 per night plus $16 for my two children aged 2 & 6). $44 per night for nothing I thought and told them that was pure profiteering. I thought an unpowered site would be something like $10 per night or so but the fact that they want to charge for a 2 year old I thought was disgusting!!!

Money is not the issue as I then made a phone call and headed to Bright and paid $90 per night for a 3 bedroom unit with full amenities including pool, bbq and spent 4 nights there.

My issue is that I really believe the caravan park operator was cashing in on the situation and it is not right.
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Reply By: Member - Teabag (Queanbeyan) - Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 10:14

Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 10:14
I think those are pretty standard prices for a Caravan Park these days though charging for the 2 year old may be a little steep........Going to a Caravan park isn't cheap any more.....
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Follow Up By: Robnicko - Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 10:26

Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 10:26
Teabag
I have only ever stayed at one other caravn park (grampians) and it was much less than that for a powered site. Look, it was more the fact that they were strict on charging for a 2 year old that really got me. Anyway, had a great time up at Bright.

Rob
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Follow Up By: GU - Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 17:32

Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 17:32
Speaking of the Grampians, ROBNICKO, the tracks there are still closed following last years bush fires even though they (the tracks) have been all cleared for months. Culprit - Parks Vic.
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew W (SA) - Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 21:11

Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 21:11
Hey GU - with you on that.

Allegedly they are yet to do the signage and bridge building ... that was the story when I tried to get them to see how ridulous it was.
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Reply By: pepper2 - Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 10:15

Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 10:15
Do you really know if the prices were inflated ,did you check what therate was eg website ,brochures etc Not many unpowered sites at a c/van park for 3 people for $10 / n
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Reply By: Member - Royce- Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 12:00

Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 12:00
Drive into any farm. Ask if they would let you camp in their front paddock for $20. You might just make a friend, and get a lovely camping spot.
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Follow Up By: Robnicko - Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 12:06

Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 12:06
Royce,
That's something I would never have thought of. Thanks for the tip.
Nice looking Troopy. I have a mate who sold his about 12 months ago and bought a Nissan GU 4.2 non turbo. He then spent heaps on tyres, turbo, clutch, injectors & pump. now he's selling it as it's nothing but problems. Cries every time he sees a troopy just like yours. I have a 80series that I have had since 1997 without any dramas except for 2 uni koints and the starter motor solenoid decided to jam itself once.

Thanks again
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Follow Up By: Member - Royce- Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 13:37

Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 13:37
Bought it about 6 years ago for $10,000. Probably spent $40,000++ on it so far and will spend more. But... I do 60/100,000ks a year in it. The old 2H was replaced by a modern 1HZ and reco gearbox. Pop top, diff locks, ... a place to sleep and heaps of fun.

Costs a bucket for fuel of course. Considering gas injection system, specially if it qualifies for the subsidy.

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Follow Up By: Member - Royce- Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 13:39

Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 13:39
And now that I think about it.... wouldn't it be nice for us Exploreozers to invite others to camp on our properties for a token fee?.... Hmmmm anyone is welcome to prop at one of my properties. Thinking...
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 13:45

Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 13:45
How's ya public liability insurance........

Leroy
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Follow Up By: Member - Royce- Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 13:51

Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 13:51
Healthy thanks... $10,000,000 if needs be. Doesn't everyone have that?
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Follow Up By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 19:33

Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 19:33
No, I got 20,000,000....... Just to be sure.... :)
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Reply By: HowdyDoody - Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 12:11

Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 12:11
Hi Robnicko, I can understand your dissapointment. However fires are unpredictable and what you were told by the ranger may have changed by the following week. We always check dse and parks web pages for latest info. radio and tv are not reliable unless there is a super emergency. Otherwise they lose interest and stop reporting so people think the threat has passed. I have been speaking with friends from Bruthen for the past few weeks who have assured me that the threat was not gone and knew that the lack of media reporting on major stations would give the impression that things were fine again.
As for the caravan park, it sounds steepish but I would not begrudge them. They need to eat and run their business and this is the time of year that they make the most money. I'm tipping this particular year they are suffering as people will have stayed away in droves. The best thing you could have done for them was stay there and spend your hard earned.
Next time check the source of the info (ie. dse, cfa,parks vic) before leaving. Don't just rely on the media.
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Follow Up By: Robnicko - Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 12:23

Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 12:23
HowdyDoody,
I understand your point , especially the last one about info source however what seems to be happening is one dept closes then opens access (vic roads) then along come parksvic who close it off again without giving any reason. I had been down to the campground in question and there was no fire damage whatsoever, green grass all over and not a sign of fire. Yes, further down the road there was evidence of fire damage but is was well and truly out. I have been visiting the area for the last 18 years and will still do so.

Rob
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Follow Up By: Member - Tim - Stratford (VIC) - Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 17:07

Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 17:07
Guys,

Unfortunately the Vicroads site and their information has slowed considerably since the fires began. We were using their website daily and it seemed to be updated three to four times a day.

I checked it again today in relation to the fires NE of Bairnsdale and there wasn't any mention of them at all. The police/DSE up that way have closed the highway about three times over the last 3-4 days - no mention of this on Vicroads.

The most up-to-date info appears to be a combination of CFA and DSE.

As said above though, this info can change as quickly as the wind does....

Tim - Stratford.
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Reply By: Kev M (NSW) - Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 12:12

Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 12:12
I spent the same period in and around Bright and camped at a property that my mates parents owned in the Kiewa Valley.
Cost us nothing and we had a great time.
We have been invited back when ever we want and if they are away then they will let us stay in the house to look after it for them.

Great area and it looks like we will be back down there soon to explore the area some more after the fires have finished.

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Reply By: Shaker - Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 16:16

Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 16:16
Should charge more for a 2 year old if it's still in nappies!

A friend of mine owns a CP & spends half his time unblocking toilets blocked with?

You guessed it .... disposable nappies!
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Reply By: Crackles - Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 21:08

Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 21:08
Bob, It often happens when Vic roads or the Police open roads around a fire zone for Parks or other local councils to then close camp sites or public area's as they see fit. Obviously all public areas need to be inspected for half burnt trees & other dangers exposed by the fires. (mine shafts, land slides, dead animals in the water etc) The immediate danger may have past but thats not to say hot winds could not reignite a fire in the area, not until they get heavy rain will that threat pass. You may have noticed that they are still busy fighting the fires & I'd suggest they haven't had time to inspect your camp site (or many others for that matter). If that has inconvienienced your long planned holiday well sorry bad luck. Maybe opening up a web page or making a couple of calls would have given you the detail you needed. I would have thought that great big illuminated sign out of Mansfield saying no camping past Jamieson would have been a givaway. Probably the easiest way to see whats open would be to put a simple post on ExOz. Having been up to Woods Point & Jamieson just before Xmas I certainly would have steered you clear.
There are still heaps of great camping spots in Victoria without the need to go anywhere near the fires. Everyone should give the fire fighters some room & keep off the roads.
And where did I go for Xmas? Beechport. No smoke, great 4 wheeling, no crowds & $20 a night for a family of 5 :-)
Cheers Craig.............
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew W (SA) - Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 21:16

Wednesday, Jan 10, 2007 at 21:16
not sure about the "no crowds".

Whilst it was very quiet on the weekend, it looked like half of Australia had done the Beachport tracks ;-)

Cheers
Andrew.
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