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Submitted: Friday, Dec 27, 2024 at 04:25
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Looking for a (un)sealed route for unexperienced (dutch) driver from melbourne to far north. We did the Oodnadattatrack.
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Reply By: Member - McLaren3030 - Friday, Dec 27, 2024 at 06:54

Friday, Dec 27, 2024 at 06:54
Hi Alberto S,

You need to be a bit more specific with your destination. When you say “Far North”, where exactly do you mean?

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Reply By: Alberto S - Friday, Dec 27, 2024 at 07:14

Friday, Dec 27, 2024 at 07:14
Oh, I 'm sorry.Kakadu, Litchfield, Darwin. Traveltime 8 weeks max
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Follow Up By: Stephen L (Clare) SA - Friday, Dec 27, 2024 at 08:54

Friday, Dec 27, 2024 at 08:54
Have you driven the full Binns Track
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Reply By: Peter_n_Margaret - Friday, Dec 27, 2024 at 10:12

Friday, Dec 27, 2024 at 10:12
It would be useful to know what you are driving, when you are travelling, how adventurous you are and what you want to experience.

Back a few years we took a Dutch couple (who were towing a hired 23ft caravan with a hired Landcruiser and dodging some water) via Broken Hill, Cameron Corner, Omricon, Epsilon, Innamincka, Lyndhurst, Marree, Oodnadatta, Hamilton, Abminga, Old Andado, Alice Springs.

Short video clip Eringa Waterhole to Abminga
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Reply By: Member - McLaren3030 - Saturday, Dec 28, 2024 at 07:08

Saturday, Dec 28, 2024 at 07:08
Hi Alberto S,

You say you are “unexperienced”, to explore this further, do you understand that at this time of year, Tropical Northern Australia is in its “Wet Season”? This means it experiences very hot, and very humid weather. It is not an ideal time to be travelling to this area on sealed roads, let alone unsealed roads. Extreme flooding can be expected. Even experienced drivers do not travel remotely in these areas at this time of year unless they have a very good reason to do so. Almost all of the tourist locations will be closed. Tropical Northern Australia is best explored during the “Dry Season”, late April to early October.

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Follow Up By: Gronk - Saturday, Dec 28, 2024 at 09:46

Saturday, Dec 28, 2024 at 09:46
And to add to that, even when the weather is good for travelling up there, I would stick to the tar, especially if travelling on your own.
Can still see all the sights and no need to make an “adventure” out of it if inexperienced.
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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Saturday, Dec 28, 2024 at 15:58

Saturday, Dec 28, 2024 at 15:58
Europeans "stick to the tar" at home. That is NOT why many come to this country.
Rather than tell them where they can not go, let's help them get the experiences they want safely and comfortably.
In my experience, many Europeans do so with common sense. We all started exploring this country somewhere.
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Follow Up By: Member - McLaren3030 - Sunday, Dec 29, 2024 at 07:34

Sunday, Dec 29, 2024 at 07:34
Hi Peter,

No offence intended Pete, but the OP stated he was inexperienced, and wanted to travel alternate (not sealed) roads from Melbourne to Darwin, Kakadu etc. Are you advocating that we suggest sending an inexperienced driver onto unsealed roads in the Top End in the wet season? How many times have we seen reports of inexperienced foreign tourists that have headed into these areas at the wrong time of year, and end up having to be rescued at the best, or worse, recovering them deceased.

It is all very well to say let them experience something that they do not have at home, and quite another to not warn them of the pitfalls and dangers of what they are trying to do.

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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Sunday, Dec 29, 2024 at 09:11

Sunday, Dec 29, 2024 at 09:11
I don't think anyone (including the OP) suggested unsealed roads in the tropics in the wet season Macca. I did ask when he was travelling in my first post because we should not assume he is heading north NOW. I expect he is still in the planning stage.
And he is not completely inexperienced having driven the Oodnadatta Track which, like many unsealed roads, can often be driven most of the year, with caution.
Hopefully, the OP will be back to give us some more guidance.
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Follow Up By: Member - McLaren3030 - Monday, Dec 30, 2024 at 07:44

Monday, Dec 30, 2024 at 07:44
Again, with respect Pete, in the OP’s initial post, he states “looking for alternate (un)sealed route”. Also, in response to my question regarding where “up north” he was looking to go, he stated among other places, Kakadu. Most of Kakadu is closed in the wet season, with many of the water crossings impassable.

Whilst The Oodnadatta Track can bring even the most experienced “Off Roader” to a standstill when the weather turns nasty, it is really just another gravel road, and nothing like the conditions likely to be experienced in the Tropical North in the Wet Season.

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Follow Up By: Member - peter g28 - Monday, Dec 30, 2024 at 22:50

Monday, Dec 30, 2024 at 22:50
Agreed what has been mentioned..
You get 50mm of rain on the Oodnadatta track and you are going nowhere quickly, hence those big bloody track caution signs at the beginning which have notices of fines of people travelling the track when it is closed.
Lets face it, the Oodnadatta track is not like it was in the 80's, it's a different track now..probably the powers to be will want to seal it..
Now..if this bloke is heading Tropical North during the wet season..please stay on the tarmac because you might see that dirt track dry at the beginning all looking good..but along that track all you need is a decent thunder storm come across and start dropping 100mm half way along the track, if you are unlucky that storm might have just drop 300-500mm and mate you are stranded for DAYS, because that storm has tracked across dropping rain and all those low spots, layaways, jump up hollows, rutts and creeks are full of water and some will be flowing hard.
Plus that red soil when it gets water logged and sticky.....it's sticks like "the preferable to a blanket"..if you start driving into it..I've seen muddies get their tread pattern so clogged with red soil, that they become like large red dirt donuts and the soil gets jammed up under the mudguards...literally caking drive shafts, steering dampers, steering arms, it's get nasty.
In the dry..it's a different story..but in the wet season up north when it is in full swing, nothing moves.
So please..just stay on the tarmac..listen to the locals and follow their instructions...
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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Monday, Dec 30, 2024 at 23:25

Monday, Dec 30, 2024 at 23:25
It is a pity that we like to treat everyone else as stupid.
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Follow Up By: Member - peter g28 - Tuesday, Dec 31, 2024 at 10:32

Tuesday, Dec 31, 2024 at 10:32
My apologies if it comes across that I'm treating the person as stupid.
That I am not..
What I and others are imparting is some knowledge of what can be expected if this person wants to head north using alternate routes which are subject to flooding during the "wet season".
Like this bloke...
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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Tuesday, Dec 31, 2024 at 11:25

Tuesday, Dec 31, 2024 at 11:25
It is a stretch to describe a "wet season" in the Simpson and in any case it only rains there less than 15 days per year and variability is described as "extreme".
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/maps/averages/rainfall-variability/
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/maps/averages/raindays/
https://www.theweathernetwork.com/au/historical/south-australia/mt-dare
The best protection wherever you are in the desert is to simply watch the forecasts and act accordingly.
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Follow Up By: Member - peter g28 - Tuesday, Dec 31, 2024 at 16:12

Tuesday, Dec 31, 2024 at 16:12
Granted and true that the Simpson is different and not subjected to the typical notion of a Top End "wet season", via physical "rainfall" as one can witness in Tropical parts of Australia. if that inference was implied or made, my apologies.

What was known, was that rains had impacted the track this bloke wanted to take and more rain was expected as the locals had told him.
Supposedly this bloke was experienced, thus not enough to "take advice", but interestingly had enough to be complacent and oblivious to consequences of one's actions.
Hence to where he and his family ended up.

A forum member who has admitted that they are "inexperienced" wanted advice on travelling to the "Top End" as it was believed, this time of year on "other roads" beside sealed roads.
So I gave it.





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Reply By: Member - Mark B68 - Saturday, Dec 28, 2024 at 11:07

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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Saturday, Dec 28, 2024 at 11:48

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They would make some sense if They were separate ed so we could enlarge them so we could read them. Also, we need to know the background of them, do they relate to trips you made? If you copied them from other sources, please also give an attribution to them complete with links.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark B68 - Saturday, Dec 28, 2024 at 15:55

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Hi,

These are some off the 'WHICH WAY' images from Bookface I have collected...

I can posst the individual images if you like...

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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Saturday, Dec 28, 2024 at 21:50

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Yes please. I’m keen to see the individual ones also
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Reply By: Member - Mark B68 - Saturday, Dec 28, 2024 at 22:46

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Reply By: Alberto S - Tuesday, Dec 31, 2024 at 02:36

Tuesday, Dec 31, 2024 at 02:36
Thank you all for enthousiast and wise answers. We drive a HiLux with Geckocamper. We arrive end January in Melbourne and booked a tagalong in Kimberley end May. Taking all the seasonmaps serious we think its better taking the time driving north. Driving east and halfway eastcoast choosing inland to meet Katherine end of April?
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Follow Up By: Member - McLaren3030 - Tuesday, Dec 31, 2024 at 08:16

Tuesday, Dec 31, 2024 at 08:16
Hi Albert S,

End of May is perfect for the Kimberley Tag-along, there should still be some water in the gorges, and the waterfalls should still be flowing.

Leaving Melbourne end of January gives you quite a few options with regard to getting to the Kimberley by end of May. You could travel along The Great Ocean Road in south western Victoria, and then continue along the Limestone Coast in South Australia. Look both these areas up on Google. Then the McLaren Vale wine growing area just south of Adelaide. All of this will be on sealed roads, and depending on what takes your interest along the way, could take you 2 to 3 weeks to get to Adelaide.

Then there is also the Clare Valley wine growing region north of Adelaide, on the way to The Flinders Ranges. You can spend a couple of weeks touring the Flinders Rangers area of South Australia, most of this will be on unsealed roads. Look this area up on Google as well, as there is a lot of things to do and see, including the Pichi Richi Railroad.

After the Flinders Ranges, there are a couple of choices, you could do The Oodnadatta again, or you could travel the Birdsville Track from Maree to Birdsville. This is another iconic Australian unsealed outback road, worth checking it out on Google to get the history of the road.

From Birdsville, if you weren’t towing a trailer, I would suggest crossing the Simpson Desert, but trailers are not recommended for crossing the Simpson Desert.

From Birdsville, you can then head north to Bedourie, Boulia and on to Mount Isa, and then head along the Barkly Highway through to The Stuart Highway at Threeways. Here you turn right and head north towards Katherine and subsequently Kakadu. Along the way, there are quite a few Hot Springs around Mataranka, and Katherine Gorge or Nitmiluk as it is now called.

Another choice after The Flinders Ranges is to head to The Stuart Highway via the Oodnadatta, and Coober Pedy if you have not been there before.Coober Pedy is known as the Opal capital of the World. Heading North up the Stuart Highway, gives you access to Uluru (Ayres Rock), and Kata Tjuta ( The Olga’s), the second largest single monolith in Australia. From Uluru, you can then head to Kings Canyon, and then the West McDonnell Ranges via the Mereenie Loop Road and on to Alice Springs. The Mereenie Loop Road is unsealed, and can be quite corrugated.

From Alice Springs, head north along the Stuart Highway, there are many places to stop and look at, this was the original route of the Inland Telegraph line that connected Australia to Southeast Asia and then England, so there are quite a few old Telegraph Stations to look at. There is also The Devils Marbles, a unique rock formation, if you wish to camp here, you need to book on line, and get there early. From here you continue to head north to Tennent Creek, and then on to Katherine, and Kakadu. After Kakadu, you need to head back to Katherine and then head to Kununurra and the start of The Kimberleys.

This will take you several weeks, and should see you getting close to Kununurra by the end of May. All National Park campgrounds require you to book on line.

I would strongly recommend you check all these places I have suggested out on line. I would also suggest you check the South Australian and Western Australian Quarantine Websites as there are restriction as to what Fruit, Vegetables and honey that can be brought across these state borders. Ensure you dispose of any prohibited items before you get to the checkpoints, as they will fine you if you don’t. Another thing I would recommend you buy is a HEMA Australian Road and 4WD Atlas. It is a very comprehensive atlas with other information such as camping sites, etc. It is not cheap, but we’ll worth the money.

I hope this information has been of some help, or at least given you some things to think about.

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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Tuesday, Dec 31, 2024 at 08:57

Tuesday, Dec 31, 2024 at 08:57
Great post Macca.
I think the Geckocamper is a traytop unit, not a trailer, so it could go across the Simpson, but I would suggest to only do that if they had company.

Regarding the Oodnadatta Track. Despite having driven it previously it is likely that there are several worthwhile side tracks to features that you have not seen before like Muloorina, The Painted Desert on Arkaringa and Old Peake then go on to Dalhousie and have a look at the Simpson from the west end.
Some of our favorite country.
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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Tuesday, Dec 31, 2024 at 11:40

Tuesday, Dec 31, 2024 at 11:40
Just reading Alberto's post above again, personally (and many would disagree) we would not go up the east coast in February/March. It will be bumper to bumper and caravan parks will be full and expensive.
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