Power Steering Pump 80 series
Submitted: Tuesday, Jun 07, 2011 at 16:34
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ExplorOz - David & Michelle
Hi everyone,
I spent the WA long weekend (we had our this week) working on the 80 getting to ready for a trip in a few weeks. I decided to replace all the oils, gear box, diff's etc. Whilst I was under the car I noticed a large amount of leaking power steering fluid coming out of the pump and dripping everywhere. I have also noticed an increase in steering noise when the car is cold. Funny also that the fluid was almost empty. So I know there is a problem with the pump.
Now the question, is it worth rebuilding these or replacing them?
Anyone done either themselves?
Is it better giving it to a mechanic? I have done everything in the service department of the car for the last 10 years, including turbo install, diff rebuilds, swivel hub and wheel bearing rebuilds etc. BUt I have not done much with the steering systems and I will not take out the gearbox myself (a little heavy for my equipment). So given this any thoughts?
David.
Still picking the grease out of the fingers after the weekend just been!
Reply By: taswegian - Tuesday, Jun 07, 2011 at 16:55
Tuesday, Jun 07, 2011 at 16:55
Gday,
It is just a straight forward follow your nose type job to fit a seal & gasket set availiable on ebay for $30-40 inc delv.
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Tuesday, Jun 07, 2011 at 18:27
Tuesday, Jun 07, 2011 at 18:27
Thanks ordered and on route.
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Reply By: 120scruiser (NSW) - Tuesday, Jun 07, 2011 at 17:25
Tuesday, Jun 07, 2011 at 17:25
It is only one seal that leaks. The big o ring between the two main pieces.
Pull the hoses off the pump then remove the two mounting bolts. The pump will come off. Remove the bolts holding the two main pieces together and replace the large o ring. Refit and refill with new oil is all it needs.
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Tuesday, Jun 07, 2011 at 18:28
Tuesday, Jun 07, 2011 at 18:28
Thanks - I have ordered a rebuild kit and will do the whole thing. I figure if I have to get ATF everywhere may as
well replace everything.
David
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Reply By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Tuesday, Jun 07, 2011 at 17:32
Tuesday, Jun 07, 2011 at 17:32
oh i am so tempted to point you to a good web site called lcool but i wont :-)
It is not a hard job if you have done what you say, i did my own and quite simple, when done flush it out with a few changes of oil as it will be dirty oil in the lines and box, i would look at doing the timing belt and idler pully at the same time, if it is a while since you have done them, not a great deal more expence wise and you will be in the general area at the same time and can give it all a good clean out with the covers off..
Cheers
Joe
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Tuesday, Jun 07, 2011 at 18:27
Tuesday, Jun 07, 2011 at 18:27
Oh I looked on there but hey why not ask here and low and behold I got the right answer. I love ExplorOz still, sometimes, periodically, most of the time, when it works - LOL.
I have done the timing belt about 40K ago so it is fine. Have ordered a rebuild kit so when it arrives I will get covered in ATF - nice.
David
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Follow Up By: Kimba10 - Wednesday, Jun 08, 2011 at 20:10
Wednesday, Jun 08, 2011 at 20:10
Id flush it with the old pump not the new one, no point pumping old oil and possible crap and gunk through a new pump n seals...........
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Follow Up By: Kimba10 - Wednesday, Jun 08, 2011 at 20:14
Wednesday, Jun 08, 2011 at 20:14
Hit the send button before I finished, you will probably know how to do it anyway by the looks of things but just take off the return line and dump into a bottle and start and stop the motor before the pump gets empty and keep topping it up till its nice and clean coming out the return line, it will pump through pretty quickly to, easier if you have some one watching it for you with torch............
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Wednesday, Jun 08, 2011 at 22:02
Wednesday, Jun 08, 2011 at 22:02
Thanks
Kimba makes sense and will do.
David
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Reply By: Fred G NSW - Tuesday, Jun 07, 2011 at 19:54
Tuesday, Jun 07, 2011 at 19:54
So that's where ya've been !!!!!!!
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David....are you gettin oiled up for the world champs ????
Without all that friction we can't imagine how fast ya gonna go mate LOL LOL
Hope you fix the problems mate.
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Wednesday, Jun 08, 2011 at 22:04
Wednesday, Jun 08, 2011 at 22:04
Must make sure Adele gets a chance to see this in between making the coffee...LOL.
World Champs bugger that is right - I am into about days 3 of my new 14 week training program using a new coach and already I am stuffed. Will keep you all posted with the progress.
David
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, Jun 07, 2011 at 20:16
Tuesday, Jun 07, 2011 at 20:16
Gday David,
Hope you don't have a repeat of my experience:
I had to fix the PS pump 3 times on my daughter's 1997 1Hz.
First time, I put a $30 aftermarket kit - the new seal and O-rings looked like garbage - I put them in and it still leaked.
Second time I put in a $65 genuine kit (seals and O-rings looked better), and it still leaked.
Third time I replaced the shaft as
well with a $60 Toyota genuine shaft. Thats what I should have done first time as the shaft had a groove worn into it. Its been as good as gold since.
Then a few months later it developed a new leak from the high pressure hose - got that repaired by the hose
shop for $170 - because a genuine PS hose cost $600.
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Follow Up By: GrumpyOldFart - Tuesday, Jun 07, 2011 at 20:34
Tuesday, Jun 07, 2011 at 20:34
David
I'll second PhilG's comments
While you have it apart it would be worth your while to fit a new shaft.
if there is any marks on the old one you will be re doing the seal in a few km's
Extra few bucks and it's fixed for good
Have fun
Dru
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Follow Up By: Member - jethro - Tuesday, Jun 07, 2011 at 20:47
Tuesday, Jun 07, 2011 at 20:47
And if you do the shaft it's worth doing the bearing too.
Geoff
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Follow Up By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Tuesday, Jun 07, 2011 at 20:56
Tuesday, Jun 07, 2011 at 20:56
mmm and if you do the bearing it is worth doing the timing belt and if you do the belt it is worth doing the idler bearing and if you do the idler it is worth approching the bank and if you do approch the bank you wont be able to afford to go away any way and you will sit at
home reading about all the others who can afford to go away and post it on EXPLORoZ just to pp us all off...
hahah enjoy the ummm "fun" of cars..
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, Jun 07, 2011 at 21:05
Tuesday, Jun 07, 2011 at 21:05
Joe,
The PS shaft bearing is a $10 part that you have to press onto the new shaft anyway.
I'm not sure why you mention the timing belt - thats a totally different repair.
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Follow Up By: Graham & Lynne - Tuesday, Jun 07, 2011 at 22:00
Tuesday, Jun 07, 2011 at 22:00
When we do them at work always do shaft bearing and seal kit all from Toyota as said not to dear and jobs done right first time especially as you said has got noisy
from Graham
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Follow Up By: Col WA - Wednesday, Jun 08, 2011 at 09:19
Wednesday, Jun 08, 2011 at 09:19
If the hoses are still the originals and have not been replaced at some time, then It would probably be a good idea to change them also. I got hosemasters to replace both of
mine when one leaked a lot cheaper than genuine and any hydraulic place will have spares if needed later on. Plus they did the job in my driveway.
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Wednesday, Jun 08, 2011 at 22:08
Wednesday, Jun 08, 2011 at 22:08
Thanks everyone - new shaft and bearing ordered but I think I was getting the shaft from Toyota at the prices they are charging for these bugger all parts. I will confirm the bill but something like $80 for the shaft and another $80 for the bearings. Anyway at least now I will have all the parts for the pump.
Hoses gee the darn list is getting long but I will give them a good
check over once I get in there.
Thanks for all the answers.
David
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Wednesday, Jun 08, 2011 at 22:35
Wednesday, Jun 08, 2011 at 22:35
David,
I think Toyota in WA add a bit to their prices. Got the receipt out from May 2009, and the shaft and bearing together cost me $101.45 - $46.75 +GST for the shaft and $45.48 +GST for the bearing from Toyota here.
Here's another option on Ebay. $110 delivered for the lot.
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