Caravan single or double axels
Submitted: Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 20:02
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WE are looking at buying a van that we hope will take us around OZ.We have some specific things we want independent
suspension and max length of 18 feet but are unsure on 2 wheels or 4. I am thinking the 2 axle so to speak would give better weight distribution but don't know of any other advantages or disadvantages for the different van
suspension set ups.We have found 2 vans one with 2 wheel independent
suspension and one with 4 wheel independent
suspension and similar set outs so interior isn't the problem.Would realy like some
feedback on you experience.
Reply By: Horacehighroller - Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 20:56
Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 20:56
I've been a truck driver for years but do not have much caravan experience, so what I have to say is theory in that regard.
I'm puzzled as to why people don't like tandems for off-road work, but I have noticed this preference in a number of other posts.
I would think that a load sharing tandem would be much better on "rough stuff" including corrugations.
Manoeuvrability should be the same if the vans are the same length, except over extreme obstacles where the tandem may "steer" on a front or rear wheel depending which has the majority of the weight.
On the highway I believe the tandem would be far superior due to extra stability and less likelihood of sway.
If you have a
puncture the tandem should "pull" less and maintain stability because it still has a good tyre on that side.
A tandem will obviously be slightly heavier, but should also have a greater carrying capacity and therefore margin of error.
The only other downside I can see is a tandem will be more difficult to turn sharply (and impossible to turn by hand) whereas a single axle is relatively easy in tight confines.
As stated above these are opinions which are NOT based on experience.
If anybody disagrees with me please post your opinion here as I will be more than happy to be enlightened.
Peter
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Follow Up By: Member - Ed. C. (QLD) - Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 21:40
Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 21:40
G'day Peter,
Having towed a few different trailers (all tandems) every which way across this country over the last 30 years or so, I agree 100% with what you say, for the reasons that you have outlined, so your theory is sound IMO :)
My (custom made) campertrailer rides on tandem axles, and I wouldn't have it any other way..
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 22:21
Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 22:21
Blow a tyre on a single axle at 90k and you will know all about it.
Do it on a tandem and you can just coast to a stop and fix it.
Get a road train zoom past and you will find which is more stable.
Tandems are much more stable and have a better weight limit usually as
well.
My observations after 44,000k of towing this year.
Never even contemplated a single axle
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Reply By: Motherhen - Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 23:47
Sunday, Dec 27, 2009 at 23:47
Hi CarlJ
My Rooster insisted on this one. Our previous van was a small single axled wind-up.
Advantage - could spin it round by hand if stuck in a tight spot.
Disadvantages; stuff was tossed from one side of the cupboards to the other (we travel off the bitumen frequently), damage to fittings, milk bottles and cartons leaking from the bottom from the bouncing. I wouldn't even try and take eggs!
His reasoning had more to do with safety in case of a blowout or losing a wheel, and general stability of the unit. We have heard of nasty accidents with a blowout or loss of a wheel with single axled vans.
There is also less thrust up and down on your tow hitch with the van stable on four wheels.
We now have a smooth ride on four wheels (Simplicity
Suspension) on our 18' van. I am
well and truly convinced. We don't have stabiliser legs - not necessary with our stable caravan.
Motherhen
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Reply By: Member - Don M (NSW) - Monday, Dec 28, 2009 at 07:15
Monday, Dec 28, 2009 at 07:15
Carl,
I have never owned a single axle but I know that the tandem is more stable from the experience of a good mate.
But I am puzzled why you insist on independent
suspension. I would have thought that a solid...50mm live axle with 12" brakes on upgraded leaf springs would give trouble free service and is much easier to fix if any problems occur. As for handling differences, I guess everyone has an opinion on this but I have no problems with my standard Jayco 'Brako'
suspension, but I am not intending to go too far off the black top.
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Reply By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Monday, Dec 28, 2009 at 08:08
Monday, Dec 28, 2009 at 08:08
Another big vote for load sharing independent tandem. On road stability (and therefore safety) is much better. Weight distribution in a van is always important, but with a tandem you have a lot more flexibility.
In a CT or trailer of less than (say) 1,500 kg ATM, single axle is fine. The further you go above that threshold, the more important the extra set of wheels becomes in my opinion. For this reason, even my 2 tonne box trailer is tandem and I wouldn't have it any other way.
Have a look at the vans on the road that you see swaying all over the place. Although there are a number of factors that cause this, the majority of them are single axle.
In my view, if you go above 16 ft, make it a tandem.
Norm C
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Reply By: Member - Warwick D (SA) - Monday, Dec 28, 2009 at 11:32
Monday, Dec 28, 2009 at 11:32
Greetings,
I had the same decicision to make as you. I went looking for single axle to replace my single axle. Frienda with huge experience on bush tracks converted me for safety. I am glad. After a blowout on the Wilpena to
Blinman road(dirt, notorious for punctures) I did not notice the blowout (dust hid the wheels in the towing mirrors) until I stopped in
Blinman. A single axle would have had me off the road, or into another oncoming traveller. My strong opinion is for double axle IF off bitumen roads. And my opinion is double on bitumen for safety, the vast amount of danger time for your tyres is travellingour huge distances to good locations. Thats from a converted single axle man.
Good luck in your choice. WD
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