1HZ problem......
Submitted: Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 10:14
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Member - Reiner G (QLD) 4124
On our last trip I noticed if I stop for 10min and take off again the temp gauge rises very close to the red mark but comes down to normal after maybe 5 min. I can travel for hrs and don't have a problem. If I stop for lets say 30min its all good but on a short stop it does heat up every time. Never noticed that before.
It has a new radiator and new waterpump. Thinking the thermostat could be faulty? but it shouldn't shut down on a 10min stop anyway.......
Any ideas out there?
Reiner
Reply By: ZukScooterX90 (QLD)Member - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 10:40
Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 10:40
Reiner Hi,you are not alone with what you say ,our little Zuk was/is doing the same thing. I noticed it on our last rtip out to
Eulo 7
Currawinya NP at
Easter.We have rebuilt motor, new radiator thermostat hoses so do not know what the reason is. will watch the replies as
well.
Cheers Bob.
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Reply By: Footloose - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 10:51
Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 10:51
Viscous fan needs attention ?
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Reply By: disco driver - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 12:07
Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 12:07
Hi All,
Back in the olden days when temperature guages were all capillary tube operated and not electronic gizmo's it was very common for the temp guage to rise after the motor was turned off, often into the red band.
Once you started again, the temp guage rapidly returned to normal
What actually happens is that the water temperature continued to rise for a while once the cooling fan and pump stop and because the guage continues to register, it indicates a rise in temperature.
In your case your guage is showing this increase of temp when you turn the key on after the 10 minute stop.
The reason that this does not happen when you have been stopped for a longer period is that the motor has had time to cool down.
I would watch it but there is no real reason to be concerned at this stage.
Hope this helps
Disco
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Follow Up By: Member - Reiner G (QLD) 4124 - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 12:33
Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 12:33
Thanks Disco that makes a lot of sense. At
home I wouldnt restart the car within 10 min so I would have never noticed. Otherwise the old cruiser run beautiful.
No I have to find something else to worry about :-)
Reiner
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Reply By: nowimnumberone - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 18:52
Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 18:52
viscous coupling as said
and regardless of what some pepople say just adding some silicone to the fan hub can not gaurentee its still good
cheers
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Reply By: Footloose - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 19:18
Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 19:18
Ok, try going up a long steep
hill at speed. If it goes into the red, and then goes down when idling, its probably the viscous fan. Pick a
hill you could normally go up without overheating.
The fan unit can be carefully taken apart and re greased using the special Toyota grease (which isn't that expensive) or a changeover unit installed.
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Reply By: hiab - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 20:44
Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 20:44
its called radiant heat, dont worry about it.
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Follow Up By: Member - Reiner G (QLD) 4124 - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 21:06
Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 21:06
Does that mean I need a new Radiantor???
Sorry mate.........just trying to be funny :-)
Thanks for your input and I think I understand now what is going on. plus I don't think I could have done 1400km with no problems if there was something seriously wrong. My old HJ47 didn't do that.........I think
Reiner
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Reply By: Max - Sydney - Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 21:08
Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 21:08
Reiner
The assurances above all make sense. However, I have a 1997 80 series with 1HZ and it's temperature gauge has never done that, even in stinking heat and towing a caravan.
I'd keep looking for a cause.
Max
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Follow Up By: ross - Monday, Apr 16, 2007 at 00:01
Monday, Apr 16, 2007 at 00:01
I got two 1HZ ,one is newly rebuilt the other with 207000klms ,and both stay coolish after I turn them off.
If the engine has high klms it may have something to do with it as my old 3F would heat up .
I now have the same sensor and gauge plugged into the rebuilt 1HZ.
Or maybe the cylinder bores/water jacket has a build up of scale that is holding heat.
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 21:17
Saturday, Apr 14, 2007 at 21:17
Change the sender unit in the head...that will fix it i believe.....not a motor problem but a sensitivity problem with the electroics....
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Reply By: Transient - Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 01:09
Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 01:09
Not sure if this will help but my 80 diesel had an overheating problem on long slow uphill grades towing a camper. The effective solution was to add extra oil to the viscous hub and to replace the hoses. The bottom one, if old, can suck itself thin and constrict the flow of coolant. Now no problems.
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Reply By: Member - Don (QLD) - Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 21:53
Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 21:53
Reiner,
I had the same problem with my 80 series. They replaced the thermostat.
The thermostat ended up beeing jammed open i think. While the guys were there they also reco the viscous clutch fan as
well. Problem solved for around $200.
No problems since.
Hope this helps
Don
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