Harvey Range Developmental Road - Townsville to Undarra

Submitted: Thursday, Jan 11, 2007 at 18:31
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I am looking at driving from Townsville to Undarra (lava tubes) and have heard about the 'Harvey Developmental Road' being a local shortcut. Apparently it runs from west Townsville through to the Gregory Developmental Road, saving time by bypassing Charters Towers.

Can anyone please confirm this and let me know what the road conditions are. I will be travelling in a raised X-trail fitted by BFG All Terrains.

Thanks in advance.
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Reply By: Member - beachbum - Thursday, Jan 11, 2007 at 18:55

Thursday, Jan 11, 2007 at 18:55
Good road all the way. You need to be aware of mining road trains travelling from Mt Garnett etc through to Charters Towers/ Townsville. Stop and have a beer at the Greenvale pub and if you are not in a hurry go via Einsleigh where the Undarra Lava flow finished and a great Aussie pub with a marvelous display of a miniature house that is fully furnished. From there to Mt Surprise and then to Undarra or if you are heading further west go to Undarra first then Mt Surprise, Einsleigh, Forsayth and then to Georgetown. Cobbold Gorge is well worth the trip. All the dirt roads are good and there is a great camp spot on the Einsleigh River at Carpentaria Crossing some 54 K's from "The lynd Junction" Enjoy your trip which ever way you decide to go.
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Reply By: hoyks - Thursday, Jan 11, 2007 at 21:46

Thursday, Jan 11, 2007 at 21:46
Watch out for army vehicles too. The area from the top of the hill on the climb out of Townsville for about 50 km is one big training area.
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Follow Up By: Taz & Milka-Queanbeyan - Friday, Jan 12, 2007 at 01:39

Friday, Jan 12, 2007 at 01:39
In the 80's and 90's when I was based there we used to do a 40 km route march every month along that road so if you are travelling at night watch out for 500 weary souls stumbling along with 40 or 50 kilos on their backs.

Cheers ... Taz

PS: They will be wearing their spotty tuxedo's which may make them very hard to see
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Follow Up By: Off-track - Saturday, Jan 13, 2007 at 01:27

Saturday, Jan 13, 2007 at 01:27
Spotty tuxedo's - also known as 'Hearts and Bunnies'.
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Reply By: David from David and Justine Olsen's 4WD Tag-Along - Thursday, Jan 11, 2007 at 22:27

Thursday, Jan 11, 2007 at 22:27
Used to be difficult road in 80's now a bitumen highway. If you want to see some local sights even the locals don't know about, PM me.

Cheers
David O
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Reply By: PAJBOY - Thursday, Jan 11, 2007 at 22:58

Thursday, Jan 11, 2007 at 22:58
Thanks for the info and update guys. Here's hoping we don't meet one of those mining trucks mid corner.
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Reply By: disco1942 - Thursday, Jan 11, 2007 at 23:13

Thursday, Jan 11, 2007 at 23:13
Towed a caravan up that road a couple of months ago. It is better than the Gregory or Kennedy development roads. No problems with the mining trucks - they are well behaved. There is a good caravan park at Greenvale.

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Follow Up By: Off-track - Friday, Jan 12, 2007 at 01:07

Friday, Jan 12, 2007 at 01:07
I think the point about the mining trucks is to move off the road and give them some room, when on the narrow sections. :-)
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Reply By: Alan H (Narangba QLD) - Friday, Jan 12, 2007 at 08:42

Friday, Jan 12, 2007 at 08:42
Check out this site re the road through the old Greenvale Rail tunnels. I do not know current status but some research might be worthwhile if you are interested in such routes.
Go to site and choose the the Harvey range option.

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Follow Up By: PAJBOY - Friday, Jan 12, 2007 at 18:29

Friday, Jan 12, 2007 at 18:29
Thanks Alan, but the link is not working.
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Reply By: Member - MrBitchi (QLD) - Friday, Jan 12, 2007 at 08:50

Friday, Jan 12, 2007 at 08:50
Don't get too wound up about the Lava Tubes..... The tubes themselves are fascinating but the whole tourist operation there left us a bit cold.... Very overcrowded in the camp ground. Facilities where very ordinary for the number of people that go there. Must be making a motza but can't see that much of the money is going back into the campgrounds.
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Follow Up By: PAJBOY - Friday, Jan 12, 2007 at 18:32

Friday, Jan 12, 2007 at 18:32
Thanks, I was there in 2001 and thought the same thing about the campground. My son is doing a major school asignment on Volcanoes in term 4 (age 9), so the trip is more educational. Also hoping for some quality father-son time.
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Follow Up By: disco1942 - Saturday, Jan 13, 2007 at 22:22

Saturday, Jan 13, 2007 at 22:22
The only way to see the tubes is on an organised tour. Most start at the office. Some friends touring the tubes a year or so back found the best tour was from the Bedrock Caravan Park at Mt Surprise. It is the same price as starting from Undara and you will be camping at a better camp ground. The proprietors of the park are both accredited Savannah Guides. See www.bedrockvillage.com.au/

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Follow Up By: PAJBOY - Sunday, Jan 14, 2007 at 12:27

Sunday, Jan 14, 2007 at 12:27
Thanks Pete. This place looks a lot better then the dusty and cramped conditions at Udarra. I think I will book at the Bedrock and arrange my tour from there. Again, thanks for the tip. I drove through Mt Surprise in 2002 and never knew this park existed.
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Reply By: MT - Friday, Jan 12, 2007 at 23:05

Friday, Jan 12, 2007 at 23:05
Can't remember the name of the creek, but about 20 - 25 km after you hit the top of Harvey's range there is an excellent creek / river running south/north that is a great spot to stop for a brew / lunch. I suspect that you could easily hurtle over it at spped on a big culvert or bridge on the new road, so keep your eyes open,

Cheers,

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Follow Up By: Off-track - Saturday, Jan 13, 2007 at 01:29

Saturday, Jan 13, 2007 at 01:29
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Follow Up By: MT - Saturday, Jan 13, 2007 at 12:28

Saturday, Jan 13, 2007 at 12:28
Thats the one, do not follow it to far the south / east side of the road as you will quickly end up in the Military Training area, with associated issues..
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Follow Up By: disco1942 - Saturday, Jan 13, 2007 at 22:33

Saturday, Jan 13, 2007 at 22:33
Don't remember the name of the stream but about 5-6 km before the Gregory Dev Rd junction is a large concrete bridge with a nice off road rest area (turn R and drive back 200 metres.) There is a short graveled walk with some history of the area. Picnic tables and shelter are provided but no dunny.

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Reply By: Alan H (Narangba QLD) - Sunday, Jan 14, 2007 at 08:13

Sunday, Jan 14, 2007 at 08:13
Try this link to the Harvey Range Tunnels

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Follow Up By: disco1942 - Sunday, Jan 14, 2007 at 11:51

Sunday, Jan 14, 2007 at 11:51
That one does not work for me either.

Try web.aanet.com.au/bycompass/links.htm and click on the Herveys Range link on the LHS.

I do not know if the tracks are open to everyone or you have to go on escorted trips. The cafe/coffee shop at the top of the escarpment used to do trips - possibly still does.

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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Sunday, Jan 14, 2007 at 16:41

Sunday, Jan 14, 2007 at 16:41
Nope, not open to everyone......Council control access and are only letting one tour operator to travel along the track and possibly some 4wd clubs (due to insurance issues at this stage). Details for the tour can be found on the noticeboard at the cafe, the cafe doesn't conduct the tour per se. BTW it is not a tag-along tour, rather a fully-guided tour of around a couple of hours.

There is a hidden lookout at the top of the first tunnel near the cafe which looks over the first tunnel and track.



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Reply By: PAJBOY - Sunday, Jan 14, 2007 at 12:29

Sunday, Jan 14, 2007 at 12:29
Taking my time (is there any other way), what sort of travel time would I expect form Townsville to Mt Surprise via the Harvey Range Developmental Road.
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Follow Up By: disco1942 - Sunday, Jan 14, 2007 at 17:17

Sunday, Jan 14, 2007 at 17:17
The NRMA travel planner indicates 5 1/2 hours driving time. This would be a minimum - how long can you malinger?

If you wish to overnight on the way I can recommend the caravan park at Greenvale - not flash but comfortable. Greenvale is an interesting town to walk around, did that a few months ago. There is a gift/coffee shop near the park, the owner has the gift of the gab and knows a fair bit about the history around there.

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