4x4 visitor need help

Submitted: Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 09:10
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...visiting the coast from canada..
....renting an awd outlander or rav4 ....
...just wondering if i'll be able to drive fraser island and cooloola park
with these vehicles....just some beach driving ...at low tide ...of course
....worth it ??? or just take a cheesy tour
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Reply By: kev.h - Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 09:27

Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 09:27
Fraser is definitly worth it but i would consider a more capable vehicle especially if your not used to sand driving sometimes it can be difficult to see the best of Fraser you have to go inland and some tracks are a challenge also cooloola coast tracks can be soft
when are you going ?
regards Kev
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Reply By: glenno(qld) - Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 09:40

Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 09:40
You can hire a troopy (toyota troopcarrier).
Just type FRASER HIRE into google . cheers
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Reply By: hoyks - Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 09:43

Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 09:43
Rav 4's go well on sand with some air out of the tyres.

The insurance on a rental on the beach or anywhere off road is rather expensive too
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Follow Up By: WheelTravel - Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 10:15

Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 10:15
Rav 4's may go well on the sand, but get yourself in a pair of wheel ruts, and it become a plough, and will promptly get bogged!

"I'm Mr. Plough...that's my name, that name again is Mr.Plough!!!"

Get something with some clearance.... as said...a troopy...but careful, the backpackers roll these more than they roll spliffs!!!!

Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 10:25

Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 10:25
Agreed. A RAV 4 would be fine on the beach, but you don't want to go to Fraser without seeing Central Station, Lake McKenzie etc. You need a 'proper' 4WD to get to these places. People try to do it in a 'soft roader', but it is very frustrating for others when they get bogged and block the narrow inland tracks.

Problem is they sink to the body in the soft sand and the drive shaft get buried in the sand between the wheel ruts.

When I was up there recently there were Hilux and similar rentals out there. Not sure which companies had them. Probably cheaper than the Troopies which are thrashed by the back packers.

It is worth the search. Fraser is a great place.
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Reply By: Member - Ross H (QLD) - Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 10:33

Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 10:33
If you are worried about car hire why not book into Kingfisher resort and hire a suzuki siera for a few days. Those things just float on the sand and are light so easier to get out of bog

regards ross
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Reply By: rescue - Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 11:29

Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 11:29
thanks guys ....tons of useful info....
...we are going to be there november 28-dec 2
....what will conditions be like?
....can you swim in the ocean?
....sunbake on the beach?
...how crowded will it get?

...is cooloola beach driveable?
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Follow Up By: glenno(qld) - Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 12:02

Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 12:02
sharks
rips
blue bottle jellyfish

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Reply By: glenno(qld) - Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 12:12

Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 12:12
My advise would be to stay at sailfish apartments which are at happy valley . This is half way up the island and close to eli creek where you can swim . Do not go swimming in the ocean as its not patrolled . Fraser island is a magnificent spectacular area . You will need a week to see everything . DO NOT GO SWIMMING IN A NON PATROLLED AREA. DONT FEED THE DINGOES , TAIPANS , FUNNELWEBS , DEATH ADDERS , SHARKS , BACKPACKERS .
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Follow Up By: WheelTravel - Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 12:24

Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 12:24
The most dangerous of which are the latter :)

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Reply By: marcus - Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 12:36

Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 12:36
Hi Rescue,
Swimming in the ocean is not advisable as many drownings have occurred due to strong undercurrents and rips along these beaches.
Sunbaking on the beach is fine as long as you are well away from where cars are travelling.
If you hire a 4x4 on the island it will save you costs of the ferry ride across from the mainland.
Are you camping on Fraser? as there is plenty of resort style accommodation available e.g Eurong beach resort has about four levels of accommodation from basic to luxury.Check their website.
Cheers Mark
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Reply By: rescue - Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 12:55

Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 12:55
....how much is it to hire a 4wd on the island?
...we only have time to spend one day on the island
....what are the main attractions to see
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Follow Up By: Member - Trevor R (QLD) - Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 14:13

Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 14:13
Rescue,

If you are only going to be on the Island for 1 day I think it would work out cheaper and be a more relaxing day if you went on one of those "cheezy tours" (your words not mine). I think you may even see more on the tour than what you would see on a self-drive day on fraser. Unless of course you just wanted to experience driving on our beautiful beaches, if that is the case just stick to the mainland and do the Cooloola section as it will save you heaps $$ just for the same experience. Whatever you decide to do, enjoy yourself while you are out here.

Regards Trevor.
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Reply By: glenno(qld) - Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 13:18

Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 13:18
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Reply By: Mark T - Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 14:28

Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 14:28
I've driven Cooloola beach (Teewah beach) in a Holden Cruze and now in my Hyundai Tuscon without any bother, including lake freashwater camping area. However, I run very, very low tyre pressures (around 10 PSI) in the Cruze and do have over 30 years experience in driving Land Rovers on Fraser. Teewah is my favourite beach to camp although I often now camp at Flinders beach on North Stradbroke Island.

I would agree with the general point here that you would be better off in a "real off roader" than a soft roader because you would have a much lower chance of getting hung up on the inland tracks

Cheers

mark T.

P.S. Enjoy your holiday in Oz
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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 15:52

Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 15:52
Rescue,

All the advise about hiring is fine only one other person has suggested what I think.

Pay the tour guide. You will see more and be more relaxed. The good ones will provide morning tea and lunch. They will show you the regular tourist spots which are beautiful and as good as anything on the island and they will explain what you are looking at.

I have driven Fraser myself and had a wonderful week relaxing cruising the beach and checking out the majority of the island. My week there was wonderfully enhanced by knowledge I picked up a few years earlier on a "cheesy tour". This was suplemented by some reading I did in preparing for my trip, but without the intro fromt the tour guide I would not have had a clue.

I also once did a tag-along near Coffs Harbour and even though I am very familiar with the Australian bush the tour guide pointed out heaps of stuff that I never knew beforehand.

THere is one other thing to consider. If you are unfamiliar with beach or sand driving and only have one day on the island, you could well spend most of it on a shovel rather than having fun.

Duncs
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Follow Up By: ev700 - Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 22:22

Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 22:22
Agreed in all respects.

Much better organised and cheaper - you can focus on having fun.

Better than lost, bogged and sun burned.
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Reply By: MightyTriby - Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 21:04

Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 21:04
A freind of mine has taken his Mazda Tribute onto Fraser and drove all over without getting bogged.
I'm biased... but unless you are into going rock crawling and the like, why drive a big 4WD when a compact SUV will do?
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Follow Up By: ev700 - Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 22:31

Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 22:31
Here's why (NRMA test):
"Off the road
Although described as a four-wheel drive vehicle, the Tribute was never intended to cope with serious off-road situations. However, with ground clearance, wheel size and power in excess of most vehicles of this type and size, its ability in the rough is quite acceptable. Its ability for more serious off-road encounters is limited by the transmission, ground clearance, wheel travel and enthusiastic throttle response."

Another problem is that many SUVs do not have adequate snatch points and I for one am concerned about potential liability issues if I help them out.
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Reply By: robak (QLD) - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 11:02

Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 11:02
Rescue

Since you're going only for a day, if I were you, I'd go with the tour to Fraser Island. If you really want to go for a drive Just go for the day at cooloola.

If you're travelling from Noosa - cross the River at the ferry in tawantin drive up (north) teewah beach, visit the red canyon, see freashwater lake (was dry two weeks ago), see the left overs of cherry venture, go up to double Island point lighthouse (you might still see some whales and dolphins.)

Go over across to rainbow beach. This area is good to go for a swim. From here you can drive to rainbow beach township for lunch (but watch those rocks) Then drive out of town along Rainbow Beach road and then turn left into Freshwater road (signposted dirt road) about 15 kms(?) out of town. Along the way is a small picniic area from where a track leads to poonah lake. Give 2 hours for the walk and a swim. It is a great lake with white sandy beaches which are usually deserted.

You can continue driving along freshwater road back to the beach. and return to the Ferry, however the track can get soft in some spots so if you don't feel confident in a soft roader, or the tides are not in you favour, go back to Rainbow beach road and drive to Gympie and then back to Noosa. Else, you can take the Fre bleep er Road back to the beach and drive the beach back to the ferry at Tawantin.

Remember to watch the tides. Don't drive on the beach within two hours of high tide

A soft roader like the RAV 4 should be fine for this trip (a small Suzuki would be better). Just drop your tyre pressures, carry a shovel, a snatch strap and some bow shackles, and make sure there are rated recovery points on your vehicle. Also check here about driving on sand

Enjoy your trip

R.
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