Hilux engine revs

Submitted: Saturday, Oct 02, 2004 at 09:35
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hi all,
have just copped an earful of the old bloke next door after he asked me wat revs my lux does at highway speed (110Km/h),i told him that it revs right on 3000RPM,which i have always thought is pretty right,but according to the old coot anything over 2000RPM is just wrecking the engine,also he tells me that the redline point should be 2200RPM,mine is at 5000,so i have been told that i have to get it to my nearest toyota dealership because this is obviously an error(yer.....right, im starting to think)i didnt argue with him cos he drove trucks and buses most of his life but i am sure something doesnt sound right here. anyway just some food for thought
cheers
rob
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Reply By: Moz - Saturday, Oct 02, 2004 at 10:22

Saturday, Oct 02, 2004 at 10:22
Hi Rob,
Is your truck diesel or petrol?

Moz
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Follow Up By: Pembo - Saturday, Oct 02, 2004 at 10:25

Saturday, Oct 02, 2004 at 10:25
hi Moz,
sorry should ahve given some more info.
It is an 83 diesel,5 spd manual,with fairly crappy tyres,then next thing will be a new set of A/T's,at the moment it has some cheap road looking tyres,i think that these may be pushing the revs up a little too?
cheers
rob
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Follow Up By: Moz - Saturday, Oct 02, 2004 at 10:43

Saturday, Oct 02, 2004 at 10:43
Rob,
Provided your tyres are approx. the same diameter as what
should be standard they shouldn't cause a problem with engine revs.

My old diesel cruiser sits on about 2500-2600 revs at those speeds
and redlines at about 3500 rpm.

I'm not sure about the old Hilux but generally 4 cylinder engines have
higher redlines and need to rev a bit harder to compensate for
lower gearbox ratios which are needed because 4 cylinders
generally have lower torque output than 6 cylinder engines.

To sum up 3000 rpm is probably right especially if the motor is
a liitle tired so you may need a little more right foot to maintain
highway speed.

I'm sure the old guy is right when he is talking about the rigs he
used to drive (10 litre V8's or similar) but your L series motor
is a different kettle of fish.

Cheers
Moz
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Follow Up By: Member - Brett H (QLD) - Saturday, Oct 02, 2004 at 12:49

Saturday, Oct 02, 2004 at 12:49
I think you are right Moz, the old boy is thinking of much larger diesels. My 6 cyl 14 ltr 350 hp Cummins had a redline of 1900rpm with peak torque about 1100 rpm from memory.
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Follow Up By: enu - Saturday, Oct 02, 2004 at 20:31

Saturday, Oct 02, 2004 at 20:31
the revs you quoted at 110km are just about spot on
i drove a 84 pajero diesel which revd at 3400rpm @ 100km,got it checked out and told it was correct.
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Reply By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Saturday, Oct 02, 2004 at 10:37

Saturday, Oct 02, 2004 at 10:37
The big engine and large torque in my falcon allows it to be geared at 2000 revs at 110kph and bolt like a horse when planting boot but the old petrol hilux is another story, around 3000 revs at 100 and bolts like a slug.
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Reply By: theshadows - Saturday, Oct 02, 2004 at 11:23

Saturday, Oct 02, 2004 at 11:23
rule of thumb is "two thirds of your redline is the maxium cruising rev speed" whats your red line 5 grand?

shadow
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Reply By: Utemad - Saturday, Oct 02, 2004 at 11:25

Saturday, Oct 02, 2004 at 11:25
My petrol 4 cylinder Rodeo sits on 3000 RPM at 110 km/h.
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Reply By: navaraman - Saturday, Oct 02, 2004 at 13:01

Saturday, Oct 02, 2004 at 13:01
My diesel 4 cyl na Navara about 3200 rpm = 110km/h Redlines at 4700 rpm. I reckon 90% of my driving is done beteween 2500 and 300o revs.
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Reply By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Saturday, Oct 02, 2004 at 18:50

Saturday, Oct 02, 2004 at 18:50
Pembo, think of it all in an engine design timeline. Early diesels has much lower engine red lines and the technology is not what it is today. Some were most effective at 1600 revs and started to come apart at 2000 revs. Some of course would not make the 1600 revs in earlier days.

Modern ones with better montoring and fuel metering are much closer to rev ranges of petrol motors, but better torque ranges with good design. Just think the 2.7 litre Mercedes diesel motor against the 4.3 litre petrol - the torque is well up at around 390-400 Nm for each but fuel usage well down on the oiler.

Your neighbour is thinking old technology but some can really do it still. Just remembering the new Rover 2 litre which is showing up in road tests now. I drove one a few hundred miles last year. 90 miles an hour up hill and accelerating strongly. I loved it - but it would rev well too
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Reply By: DiesAl - Monday, Oct 04, 2004 at 08:44

Monday, Oct 04, 2004 at 08:44
Gday Rob,
I have a 2000 Hilux Dcab 3 Litre Diesel and it sits on 3000rpm at 105 - 110kph. I think I found in the Gregory’s manual that the max torque is generated at 2600 rpm which = about 90kph and from what I’ve read, other Hilux owners get their best fuel econ at this speed, from memory I think redline on mine is 4500 – 5000. So I don’t think you have anything to worry about.
Hope this helps.
Al
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Follow Up By: westvictoria4x4 - Wednesday, Oct 06, 2004 at 19:50

Wednesday, Oct 06, 2004 at 19:50
hi rob
i have a 1999 3.0lt diesel with 2inch lift and four 16inch mud terrains on and my revs have seemed to come down. it does 110 at about 3000rpm but with my 15inch all terrains it did a little over 3000 at 110kmh
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