12v Diesel fuel transfer pump from plastic jerry cans

Submitted: Sunday, Nov 17, 2024 at 16:36
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Every time I lift up a 20L jerry can of diesel to top up the cruiser tank. I vow to find a better way.

* I find it harder now than when I was 21, they are heavier than then!
* Syphoning with a jiggler still means a high lift.
* internet searching only finds me a 38mm dia submersible pump. (Plastic jerry cans are ~29 mm dia neck)
* or some battery powered pumps that I'm sceptical about
* or reference to the tanami pump, however they are designed to fit on the metal jerry can and pressurise. Not suitable for plastic. Not even sure if the tanami pump is still sold? If it is in guess I could change to metal jerry cans but very reluctant to do so.
* Found a fawcet pump however at 85L per hour its hardly suitable.

What are you all doing to stop the grunt and mess? Is there a solution?

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Reply By: Batt's - Sunday, Nov 17, 2024 at 16:44

Sunday, Nov 17, 2024 at 16:44
Long range fuel tank or an extra tank like the type Enmach industries sell.
I bought 3 jerry cans in the late 80's for my FJ40 I used them on a 60ser as well but yes agree they get heavier as you get older. I think I still have 2 left in the shed.
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Reply By: Member - wicket - Sunday, Nov 17, 2024 at 16:52

Sunday, Nov 17, 2024 at 16:52
How about a manual pump, something like this Manual fuel transfer pump
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Reply By: Member - Jim S1 - Sunday, Nov 17, 2024 at 18:51

Sunday, Nov 17, 2024 at 18:51
Powered by a drill ??

https://www.bunnings.com.au/josco-drill-powered-pump_p0117229

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Reply By: RMD - Sunday, Nov 17, 2024 at 19:21

Sunday, Nov 17, 2024 at 19:21
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I used to use an older Commodore inline fuel pump. They were situated between tank and front of vehicle. Using a piece of hose I extended the inlet with a steel pipe. Cut from a large steel breather line from a vehicle. Long enough to draw from the bottom and able to sit OFF the deepest corner to avoid silt and water if present. Then outlet of the pump has a hose to filler neck. You can add a filter before the pump and or after it to provide filtered fuel to tank. As of last couple of years the pump is mounted on the side of my 55 litre vertical tank in front of tub and that pump sucks through a Donaldson filter to dump all into main tank. About 12.mins to transfer the fuel while, so while checks are made. Use an inline switch for ease of use incase main cannot take all and quick shut off is required.

Pump runs off a ciggy socket in tub with dedicated switch for use. Uses around 3 to 4 amps. Some pumps.are smaller.and would lengthen the time factor. Larger vehicle will.have a higher flow rate. It is not the pressure they develop you need, just the flow rate. Be careful they will develop over 40 psi. If restricted or shut off. Might even blow a hose off which makes a mess Hope this helps. I don't like lifting jerries now either!
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Reply By: Member - Rick T4 - Sunday, Nov 17, 2024 at 19:24

Sunday, Nov 17, 2024 at 19:24
Search Amazon for Nitigo or FPower fuel transfer pumps
Either 12 volt or battery powered
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Reply By: Mikee5 - Sunday, Nov 17, 2024 at 19:35

Sunday, Nov 17, 2024 at 19:35
Replace your 20s with 10s. Half the weight. Or do weights. At 75 I still lift 20s above my shoulders to put into my boat.
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Sunday, Nov 17, 2024 at 20:37

Sunday, Nov 17, 2024 at 20:37
I’ve done similar to Mike, Bungara. During 2 trips into the Simpson, in ‘21 & ‘22, I took 4 x 10L Penrite oil containers for extra diesel. First year they worked well, but on the 2nd trip, one sprung a small leak. But the successful conclusion was they are easy to lift & dispense the contents. Used a funnel to top up the fuel tank.
Since then, I’ve purchased 4 10L Jerry cans, to achieve easy refuelling for my 70 plus limbs.

Have had an Enmach 80L poly diesel tank, that Batt’s mentioned, for years that I plan to fit under the rear of the tray, syphoning into the rear 90L tank. May not need the 10L cans then?

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Follow Up By: Member - bungarra (WA) - Sunday, Nov 17, 2024 at 21:56

Sunday, Nov 17, 2024 at 21:56
Mikee similar age to you and still quite fit and capable.

I can still lift the 20kg up there but its also about using brains at times, out the bush on your own its just prudent to start thinking about options of doing it easier.

Basically, once the 20kg is up on the roof rack for example then syphon is a no brainer. If I keep Jerry cans downstairs inside or on the caravan then the idea of a simple pump appeals to me.

10L containers are an option but a bigger foorprint
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Follow Up By: Batt's - Monday, Nov 18, 2024 at 13:03

Monday, Nov 18, 2024 at 13:03
Putting all that weight up high on the roof is not a smart idea in the first place for vehicle handling etc. I've never stored fuel on the roof I consider it too dangerous for the weight and the slim chance it can leak then it runs down the vehicle and possibly into the cabin.
A swing away rack on the rear of the vehicle for example is safer with the jerry cans on the opposite side to the exhaust and a more comfortable height to lift them into place.
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Reply By: Garry L - Sunday, Nov 17, 2024 at 20:21

Sunday, Nov 17, 2024 at 20:21
" What are you all doing to stop the grunt and mess? Is there a solution? "


Buy an electric vehicle :)
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Reply By: Member - FLNGO - Sunday, Nov 17, 2024 at 20:26

Sunday, Nov 17, 2024 at 20:26
I have also just moved from steel jerry cans to a 100L fuel bladder (mounted into a deck system in place of 2nd row seats, only used for extended trips) and use this self priming 12v pump to transfer the fuel.
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Reply By: Member - rocco2010 - Sunday, Nov 17, 2024 at 21:55

Sunday, Nov 17, 2024 at 21:55
An interesting conversation the same week we starting reading reports about the new Toyota Prado with its fuel tank down from 150l to 110l.

Last time I lifted a jerrycan five years or so ago I still could but that was on the CSR and I most likely won't be going back there.

My first 4wd was a Ranger with a 70l tank and you didn't have to be very adventurous to be thinking about extra fuel. Took three jerrycans on a trip out through the East Pilbara. Needed one and a half. Took one across the Simpson the shortest route from Birdsville to Mt Dare and that was enough.

Now with 150l on board my Prado and avoiding the hardest tracks I can't think of anywhere I would be going where I need to worry. The heaviest fuel use in the Prado was 15l/100 on the CSR and I might have made it from Halls Creek to Kunawarritji without it if I'd topped up at Billiluna.

Crossing the country on the Eyre Highway earlier this year it was a one stop job, avoiding the higher priced roadhouses. Not that saving a few dollars is a primary aim. If you don't like the price, stay home.

The reduced fuel load on the new Prado won't be welcomed by those who tow or venture out into the deserts. Might be a deal breaker.

A guy I have travelled with in the past is 76 and still goes to the gym with a focus on weights. He'd get an invitation if I ever venture remote again.

Good luck with the search.

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Reply By: Gbc.. - Monday, Nov 18, 2024 at 06:30

Monday, Nov 18, 2024 at 06:30
An electric air bed pump and a piece of hose. Put them in the jerry spout and seal with a piece of rag. Air pressure does the rest. I have a fuel pressure rail pump to transfer between my long range tank and main. It is very slow but I don’t use it often enough to worry about changing it.
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Reply By: Peter J4 - Monday, Nov 18, 2024 at 07:37

Monday, Nov 18, 2024 at 07:37
I use one of these to fill the tractor, excavator and anything else that needs more fuel than a 5 or 10 litre containers worth/
Run of two D batteries which last for ages and they're pretty quick too.
See fuel transfer pump
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Follow Up By: Michael H9 - Monday, Nov 18, 2024 at 08:53

Monday, Nov 18, 2024 at 08:53
They look like what Ronny Dahl used to put extra fuel into the Grenadier in his last episode. Thanks mate.
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Monday, Nov 18, 2024 at 08:48

Monday, Nov 18, 2024 at 08:48
My Tanami Pump must be 10-12 years old and still as reliable as ever.
The jerrycans sit in their racks on the A-frame and a 3 meter flexible fuel line reaches the filler cap.
I use a small 12v air pump to pressurize the jerry and transfer the fuel. Pressure is only about 4psi max.
Takes about 2mins per jerry to transfer 20 litres of fuel and not a drop of diesel is spilt.
I love the Tanami Pump.
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Reply By: Nomadic Navara - Monday, Nov 18, 2024 at 08:56

Monday, Nov 18, 2024 at 08:56
Quote "* or reference to the tanami pump, however they are designed to fit on the metal jerry can and pressurise. Not suitable for plastic. Not even sure if the tanami pump is still sold? If it is in guess I could change to metal jerry cans but very reluctant to do so."

Yes they are still around - Tanami Pump - Cost $75 each.
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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Monday, Nov 18, 2024 at 09:32

Monday, Nov 18, 2024 at 09:32
20+ years ago. I made a version of that for getting fuel out of 200L drums.
Never used it, but it is still in my tool box. :)

The top one, not the bottom one................
Would not be too difficult to make one to suit any fuel container.
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Reply By: Member - Cuppa - Monday, Nov 18, 2024 at 18:01

Monday, Nov 18, 2024 at 18:01
I have a Tanami pump made for plastic jerry cans. I don't think they sell them any more. Not surprised as even the lowest pressures cause the Jerry's to blow out like a balloon.
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Follow Up By: Member - Warren H - Monday, Nov 18, 2024 at 20:58

Monday, Nov 18, 2024 at 20:58
A bit of a thought bubble, but you could probably use a couple of ratchet straps around the jerry can to prevent ballooning or with a bit of stitching make a webbing jacket.
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Follow Up By: Gbc.. - Tuesday, Nov 19, 2024 at 05:59

Tuesday, Nov 19, 2024 at 05:59
Sitting on boat decks I’ve seen them more round than square. Never seen one fail. So long as they have the standards marks it’s amazing what punishment they can handle. I still have an original Canadian made sceptre from the 1980’s.
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Follow Up By: Member - Cuppa - Sunday, Nov 24, 2024 at 12:44

Sunday, Nov 24, 2024 at 12:44
Warren, although a tad sceptical about your idea of utilising a couple of ratchet straps, I gave it a go this morning & it made all the difference, worked well. Thanks for posting it.

Sadly though it's not going to help me.

When I bought it, I now recall, I had to order it to fit the Fuelsafe brand of jerries I had, which is what I used the Tanami pump on this morning.

The disappointing bit is that the Fuelsafe jerries don't fit into the aluminium box on the cab roof, custom made to fit 4 x Sceptre jerries ( & no others I tried a few) & the Sceptre jerries have a different (larger) cap size to the Fuelsafe ones. Bugger!

In reality I reckon the only time I might fill the jerries would be on the Canning. 350 litres in the fuel tanks will likely be sufficient for any other route (& in fact enough for the Canning if purchasing at Kunawarritji). I reckon I'll buy one of those plastic battery operated pumps if need be.

It's not just lifting the jerries to fill the tanks which is a problem, the tank filler caps are set in under the motorhome body making it hard if not impossible to tip the jerry up sufficiently to empty it. So if planning to use them I will need a pump of some sort.

If I thought I was going to use the jerries on a regular basis, I'd build a slightly larger enclosure to hold the Fuelsafe jerries I have, but it feels like to much stuffing around without a great deal of justification.
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Wednesday, Nov 20, 2024 at 06:34

Wednesday, Nov 20, 2024 at 06:34
Why not change to 10Litre Australian made Fuel Safe plastic containers. Half the weight. Michael
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Reply By: Member - pedro1 - Wednesday, Nov 20, 2024 at 20:50

Wednesday, Nov 20, 2024 at 20:50
I had trouble removing the 20l plastic containers from my caravan rack, then I realized I was filling them too much, so now I measure 20l exactly and experience no further trouble, also they are not so heavy
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Follow Up By: RMD - Thursday, Nov 21, 2024 at 08:15

Thursday, Nov 21, 2024 at 08:15
Pedro.
If the poly jerries were a close fit in their holder, when initially filled, the poly material absorbs hydrocarbon fuel and GROWS around 2% in all directions, which will make them tighter in their rack. Some people with restrained tanks in vehicles, find they cannot remove the tank after initial installation because of the expansion. 20mm increase in a 1 metre long tank does make them become firmly secured. Some tanks even split at corners because of the poly materials own expansion pressure. Racks made for metal jerries may not suit poly jerries because of this material expansion.
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Follow Up By: Batt's - Saturday, Nov 23, 2024 at 06:08

Saturday, Nov 23, 2024 at 06:08
Never fill them all the way up I use to put around 1 ltr less even with my 5 ltr plastic mower fuel can I only put in 4.5 lts max.
Releasing the pressure gently before removing I had to do that sometimes with steel jerry cans.
You should be able to push the side in on a plastic one then put the lid on that should help it to be removed in some cases. But if it becomes to much of a problem maybe the carrier is too tight not allowing for expansion.
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Reply By: GarryR - Thursday, Nov 21, 2024 at 12:38

Thursday, Nov 21, 2024 at 12:38
i have used in the past an electric external fuel pump. it is about 6psi - about 100l/per/hr. It has done me well in the past, as I have not been in a hurry to transfer. The pump is similar to the Goss brand but it not a Goss.
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Reply By: Barry P8 - Tuesday, Nov 26, 2024 at 19:23

Tuesday, Nov 26, 2024 at 19:23
have a tanamai pump made my own adaptor to fit the plastic jerry cans
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Reply By: Member - Cuppa - Friday, Dec 13, 2024 at 13:33

Friday, Dec 13, 2024 at 13:33
Since my earlier post I have bought one of these. Lightweight & plastic, but seems well made. A lot less messy than most other options. Telescopic for different size tanks if transferring fuel out of a tank, 11 litres a minute & rechargeable (lithium), with a single charge apparently good for 300 litres.

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