Gary Highway

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Has any one recently travelled on the Gary Highway and the Gary Junction Road ?
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Monday, Jun 10, 2019 at 18:33

Monday, Jun 10, 2019 at 18:33
Travelled Gary Highway from Everard Junction as far north as Parallel Road No.2, in June ‘18, on our way to Rudall N/P, Newman & Karijini.
In early July ‘18, we travelled Gary Junction from Well 33 to Sandy Blight Junction, before heading south on Sandy Blight to GCR, then Yulara.

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Follow Up By: Member - JIM F4 - Tuesday, Jun 11, 2019 at 17:45

Tuesday, Jun 11, 2019 at 17:45
Thanks Bob Y, We are travelling through the APY Lands(yes even with a permit!1) Surveyors Corner , Warakurna,Old Gunbarrel Hwy to Everad Junction, Gary Hwy, Gary Junction to Kintore and finish in Alice. Any particular camp sites or points of interest that were outstanding that we may miss?
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Follow Up By: Candace S. - Friday, Jun 14, 2019 at 14:04

Friday, Jun 14, 2019 at 14:04
JIM F4,

I'm mighty curious how you got a tourist/transit permit for the APY lands?!

I found this on their website: "No transit permits will be issued for tourists/travellers wishing to pass through any part of the Anangu Pitjanijatjara Yankunytjatjara Lands"

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Plus, on their permit download page, the links seem to be broken...

Perhaps you simply contacted them directly and asked for permission? I would love to drive the entire Giles-Mulga Park Road. But it seems permission is only readily available for the GCR-Wingellina section.
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Friday, Jun 14, 2019 at 21:14

Friday, Jun 14, 2019 at 21:14
If you’ve got good maps/nav system you won’t miss too much, Jim.

After a night at Geraldton Bore, we travelled to Everard Junction, then north to Charlie’s Knob, where we drove to the summit/trig station. Went out to McPherson’s Pillar for the night, and visited Mulan Rockhole the next morning.Lake Cohen had a lot of water in it, but was nowhere near full.

Windy Corner is a dismal place(and think it’s burnt out this year) so we camped about a km or two north, and maybe half a km to East, in amongst some trees.Good camp. Worth going to Veevers Crater.

Jupiter Well is a must-do camp, but we were there midday so headed off early. Went into the abandoned Nyinmy Community for a look. A number of dwellings, a burnt out John Deere tractor & a Telstra phone box sans phone, of course. Eventually camped at Mt Webb, in the grader driver’s campsite, east of Kiwirrkurra. Also went into some rock holes, east of Mt Webb, and an abandoned camp near Dover’s Hills. Have your camera ready near Kintore, Mt Strickland & Leisler are both spectacular.

That’s about it, Jim.

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Reply By: Seacay - Monday, Jun 10, 2019 at 19:58

Monday, Jun 10, 2019 at 19:58
My wife, myself and another couple travelled from Alice Springs to Marble Bar last May, both of us drivers were pleasantly surprised by the high quality of the road. We may have been lucky with the grading aspect, but based on that experience would do it again, superb scenery all the way.



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Reply By: ken archie - Tuesday, Jun 11, 2019 at 18:20

Tuesday, Jun 11, 2019 at 18:20
we did Gary Junction Rd in Sept 18, west to east to Alice. We also did it in 2013, east to west. The first trip was excellent, good roads and lots of wildflowers. Last year was very different, no wildflowers, obviously been in drought. The road was very sandy. We were towing Ultimate Camper trailer, so no real issues, but was very disappointed compared to experience 5 years earlier. The camp spots are very few & far between.Places we stopped in 2013 were not accessible last year, so leave yourself plenty of time to find a suitable camp spot. Jupiter well was the best place, but need to find at least one on the eastern side of that so we used a gravel pit.

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Reply By: Candace S. - Wednesday, Jun 12, 2019 at 03:18

Wednesday, Jun 12, 2019 at 03:18
What organization issues permits for the Gary Junction Road in WA?
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Wednesday, Jun 12, 2019 at 11:58

Wednesday, Jun 12, 2019 at 11:58
Candace, the booklet in the link below gives comprehensive permit information.
You need three different permits to traverse the full length of the Gary Junction Road.

Do I need a Permit?

Cheers, Ron.
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Follow Up By: Candace S. - Wednesday, Jun 12, 2019 at 15:02

Wednesday, Jun 12, 2019 at 15:02
Ron,

Thanks! I have sketchy mobile service at the moment, so their interactive map isn't loading for me. But I will check it out later. :)

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Reply By: Member - Michael N6 - Wednesday, Jun 12, 2019 at 13:04

Wednesday, Jun 12, 2019 at 13:04
We travelled them both from 8th May to 11th May but I believe there has been rain since then. The Gary junction was in great condition and suitable for a van or camper trailer although we didn't have either. We refuelled at Kintore and Kunawarritji, 4kms past the Canning. Both places accepted credit cards. Stopped overnight at Old Well campsite and Jupiters well, both good campsites.
After refuelling we took a shortcut on Kidsons track (labelled as Gary Highway in Hema treks maps) to Gary Highway proper and continued down to Tulawana track and turned right at Windy Corner to continue on Tulawana track to the Canning. Both Kidsons & Gary Highway were quite rough and overgrown so expect some scratches on your vehicle after travelling them. Stopped overnight at Veevers Crater turnoff on Gary Highway, nice campsite but recent bushfire has made it a bit sparse. This section of the Tulawana had not been travelled for quite some time as we were knocking the top off small termite mounds growing in the track. It was a great drive, minimal corrugations and interesting countryside and a few unfortunate burnt out vehicles including a Range Rover and FJ Toyota. We camped at well 24, lots of unafraid dingos and then turned off Canning before well 22 back onto Tulawana track and onto Newman. This section of the Tulawana was initially rough but after about 15kms turned into a great smooth wide road all the way to Newman courtesy of a mining company.
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Reply By: Member - Darwin Dave - Thursday, Jun 13, 2019 at 11:51

Thursday, Jun 13, 2019 at 11:51
Hi Jim F4,

I did the full length of the Gary Highway , North to South early Aug 2018.
The first section from the Gary Junction down to the turn off back to Well 33 on the CSR was very scratchy.

This year I travelled from the Gun Barrel up to Windy Corner second week of May, no problems, could be done in a 2WD ute, bit of rock on the range at the bottom end, just take it easy.

2018 you could see a little bit of water on Lake Cohan, this year no sign. It has been very dry so minimal growth.

This year, towing a trailer, I went west across the Anne Beadell, south then north up the Connie Sue, north up the Hunt Oil Road, north up the Gary Highway, west across the Talawana Track until I hit the CSR at about Well 24 then headed North to Well 33. Headed east to Kiwirrkurra then up the Lake McKay track to Balgo. Then east to the Tanami mine turn off and north to Hooker Creek and on to the Buntine Highway. After 3,732 km of dirt that bitumen felt real strange.

Had no problem with spinifex, no need to put anything in front of the radiator.

My pick of the tracks is the Hunt Oil Road and the Lake McKay to Balgo Track.

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Reply By: Member - JIM F4 - Thursday, Jun 13, 2019 at 12:09

Thursday, Jun 13, 2019 at 12:09
Thanks Dave, What a great forum, and I am looking forward to our journey through APY Lands and finishing on the Gary Junction road and back to Alice over the next 3 weeks.
Cheers Jim
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 13, 2019 at 16:24

Thursday, Jun 13, 2019 at 16:24
Jim,

How did you get a permit through APY lands? Everything I've read says none are issued.

My 13yo grandson has taken an interest in our desert regions. I would like to do a loop Kulgera, Mulga Park, SGC, Warakurna, Sandy Blight Junction Rd to Kintore, Haast's Bluff then Alice Springs. I know there are plenty of other options, but that's what I'd like to do.

PM me if you prefer.

Thanks

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Reply By: gke - Sunday, Jun 16, 2019 at 20:22

Sunday, Jun 16, 2019 at 20:22
Frank, you need to go to The Ngaanyatjarra Council website and apply online. Our permit returned in 2 days.

It is a great drive and I rate the scenery as being better than on the Sandy Bight Junction Road.

Some of the communities advertise their art galleries at their turnoffs.

Cheers, Graham.
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Follow Up By: Candace S. - Tuesday, Jun 18, 2019 at 03:46

Tuesday, Jun 18, 2019 at 03:46
Below is a snip from the map included in the Ngaanyatjarra Council permit pack.



It highlights the Giles-Mulga Park Road out to Wingellina (SG Corner access). Then continuing on a bit farther past a couple other communities. But then curving down through Willi Willi and terminating at Kunytjanu on the Mt Davies Road.

Is that the route you are following and were readily approved for? Or were you able to get a permit to continue on either the Giles-Mulga Park Road or the Mount Davies Road?
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Reply By: gke - Tuesday, Jun 18, 2019 at 09:31

Tuesday, Jun 18, 2019 at 09:31
Hi Candace,

We entered SA south of Mulga Park Station then past Amata, and headed west parallel to the NT border to SGC, Jamieson and Warburton. From there we went down the Connie Sue.

Enjoy your travels, Graham.
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Follow Up By: Candace S. - Wednesday, Jun 19, 2019 at 01:05

Wednesday, Jun 19, 2019 at 01:05
Okay, thanks for clarifying.

The way I read the map in the permit pack, it still doesn't seem like the Ngaanyatjarra Council issues permits for all of that! Because the far north of SA is APY land. I'll have to look into this some more.
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