Removing 105 series Landcruiser manual gearbox

Submitted: Sunday, Nov 11, 2012 at 16:29
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This is a follow-up for thread ID 98314 in which I asked for some help in removing the gearbox of my 105 Landcruiser. It has now been archived so I can't add to it so thought I would do a brief report as I obtained some conflicting information when I was looking for help.
Firstly thank you to all those who offered advice. Loosening the fan shroud and the engine mounts was excellent advice. The stuff-the-grease-in-behind-the-spigot-bearing-and whack it with a drift (in my case a 3/8in socket extension) was perfect. After about 20 whacks it landed on my head, covered in grease. At least my fear of grease spraying everywhere did not come to be. Might try the wet toilet paper trick next time. I had also undone the inlet hose from the air filter to the turbo.

In the end I decided not to separate the transfer and gearbox and nor did I remove the crossmember from the gearbox. As suggested, I used the doors open, steel pole through cab suspended from ceiling at level of top of door openings, cable hand winch suspended from steel pole supporting gearbox through the transfer case lever hole technique. Piece of webbing around gearbox.
Then a trolley jack under the bell housing and another under the transfer as the weight of the transfer causes the whole catastrophe to tilt that way (a bit). This worked well as I could tilt the gearbox this way and that and maintain alignment well with the engine
avoiding any undue pressure on the gearbox input shaft.
I was able to get the top bellhousing to engine bolts out with a long socket extension through the gearbox level hole. And by the way, when it comes time to remove the gearbox lever the instructions are to push down and remove it as you would a bayonet
fitting light globe. You do not push down on the gear lever but rather the small circular tin seal at the bottom of the lever. Some time and effort wasted there!
Rattled the gearbox loose and used a pinch bar in various positions to move the gearbox back. It did not seem to need rotating as there was adequate (just) clearance with the firewall. The engine needs to be dropped at the back as far as possible minding out for it impinging on things. Manoevred it out and rested it on the floor. Not sure if this is the case with other models such as the 80 though.

Had the flywheel refinished ($50), replaced the clutch plate, spigot and thrust bearing and a nice new high-clamp pressure plate. Had to modify my off-the-shelf clutch alignment tool as the smallest dowel was still too big for the tiny Toyota spigot bearing opening. Lined it up a gazillion times and eventually tightened the pressure plate bolts to the required torque

Had a few sleepless nights wondering how I was going to get it back in.

Bought 2 ratchet straps at KMart for $15.

One went over the chassis rails and under the sump with one of the loops running in front of the lowest bulge in the sump. Important to do it this way. This supported the rear of the engine and allowed plenty of room under the car.

Lifted the gearbox with cable winch and 2 trolley jacks into as close a position as I could get it. Ran the other ratchet strap from the front strap under the sump on one side, around the gearbox's rear and back to the front strap on the other side. Now I could use the second ratchet strap to coax the gearbox up to the motor watching the alignment carefully. When it was nearly home but the alignment of the dowels was not quite right, I tensioned the strap pretty tightly and rattled around the rear of the gearbox and VOILA-all together. Amazing given it was so little effort.

Went and had a beer to celebrate.

Now I just need to do everything up again!
Hope this is of use to someone out there in brave removal-of-gearbox land.
Others may have some other suggestions. I did manage to save on some labour and learnt a lot (including patience) along the way. Did have to buy a trolley jack. Bought a big one cause the little ones drive you to distraction with a 4WD.
Good luck
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Reply By: ken triton - Sunday, Nov 11, 2012 at 19:18

Sunday, Nov 11, 2012 at 19:18
Good on you Michael for having a go, they are horrible boxes to remove and replace. As you said you have learnt a lot. I bet you enjoyed your beer, well done.
Regards
Ken
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew L (QLD) - Sunday, Nov 11, 2012 at 20:08

Sunday, Nov 11, 2012 at 20:08
Well done. I hope I never have to do one....and I am an ex mechanic.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Nov 11, 2012 at 20:51

Sunday, Nov 11, 2012 at 20:51
Well done Michael! I replaced a 60series clutch myself 15 years ago. .
Just for comparison my daughter's HZJ80 had the clutch replaced in Brisbane last week and here is the cost breakdown:
- Exedy H/D clutch kit $550
- Spigot bearing Toyota $38
- Machine flywheel $54.55
- Environmental Levy $13.64
- Workshop floor labour $722.50
+ GST, all up $1516.55.
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Reply By: splits - Monday, Nov 12, 2012 at 09:24

Monday, Nov 12, 2012 at 09:24
Well done Michael, they are not an easy box to remove with all that weight plus the transfer case hanging off the side and wanting to rotate the whole lot.

Another way of doing it at home is by using a variation of a method I used at work years ago. I removed many of them with a little cradle that I made that fitted the bottom of the box and attached to the top of a transmission jack. I had to take the box out of my Hilux a couple of years ago so I made a similar thing at home.

I started with a rectangular steel tube frame with castors at each corner. Small triangular steel plates with holes in them were welded onto each corner. Four lengths of large diameter threaded steel rods from Bunnings were attached to each plate with a nut top and bottom.

I now had a frame on castors with a rod sticking up on each corner. Another nut was placed a few inches down from the top of each rod.

The next step was to make a little steel cradle that fitted under the box and case in such a way that nothing would slip. It had four holes spaced out to match the rods and sat on the nuts on top of the rods. All I had to do then was wind the nuts up until the cradle came up under the box and took its weight then roll it back and lower it right down with the nuts.

If you ever have to replace a clutch and can't find a suitable aligning tool then it can be done by sight. I have done this many times.

Start by bolting the clutch in position with the bolts just tight enough to hold the plate. Sit up under the car so you can look straight at the clutch. Sight along the edge of the teeth in the plate and, while moving the plate slightly with a screwdriver as necessary, position it so it is centred around either the hole in the centre of the spigot bearing or the edges of the grease seals in it. Look around all the teeth carefully to be certain then slowly tighten the bolts and check again.

I have never had a box fail to go in using this method.
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Reply By: MichaelR - Monday, Nov 12, 2012 at 22:50

Monday, Nov 12, 2012 at 22:50
Thanks everyone for your encouragement. Next weekend will be spent putting the rest of the vehicle back together again. And fitting the new cross country top mounted inter-cooler.
Hopefully should be trouble free although a little nervous about cutting a hole in the bonnet.
Michael
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