Diesel fuel pump nozzle size

Submitted: Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 11:41
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Hi All, just want to clarify, is the size of the servo diesel fuel pump nozzle the same as petrol one (not talking about the hi flow)?

I have read a few posts but there seems to be conflicting reports, of course I could always get out my tape measure.

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Reply By: Member Andys Adventures - Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 13:01

Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 13:01
Hi Noldi, The diesel nozzle at my station is the same, but all diesel pumps have a lever or sign on then warning you it's diesel so you don't pick up the wrong one. I have seen a couple of times when this has happened, not a nice feeling when you see them drain it all out and start again.
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Follow Up By: Member - Noldi (WA) - Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 13:23

Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 13:23
Thanks Andy,

I am looking at fitting a second tank under the tray and want a separate filler.

Just wanted to know so I don't end up with something that doesn't fit.

Have not (touch wood) had the problem mixing up the pumps, although when in Darwin 20 odd years ago my son did fill up (60+ litres) dads tank with the garden hose, on Christmas eve

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Follow Up By: Member Andys Adventures - Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 13:44

Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 13:44
If you are getting a second tank it should come with the hoses and cap, or is it home make. Don't forget the breather pipe and S bend on the end of it is facing down, or the first creek crossing you will end up like 20 years ago.

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Follow Up By: Member - Noldi (WA) - Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 13:54

Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 13:54
Hi Andy
Not sure what its out of, seems professionally made has a pile of stuff (wires and Pipes) hanging off it. has a filler pipe but I need to get the bit of filler pipe that screw to the tray of the ute.

Thanks for the tip on the breather pipe as this is a first, how hard can it be????
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Reply By: Steve63 - Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 15:21

Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 15:21
They are pretty close. I believe the "normal" diesel nozzle is a little smaller than petrol nozzels. There is apparently a plastic gadget you can fit in the filler tube of a deisel so a petrol nozzel will not fit in.

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Follow Up By: Member - Noldi (WA) - Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 15:27

Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 15:27
That's interesting Steve, not heard of that, could be a handy gadget
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Follow Up By: Steve63 - Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 15:29

Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 15:29
I'll see if i can find out where they come from
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Follow Up By: toffytrailertrash - Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 15:39

Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 15:39
The new Land Rover Discovery 4's come with it standard. You put in a petrol nozzle and a small lever cuts off the inlet nozzle. Apparenly it is a pain in the a..e to unlock if you have left the key at home. Key looks similar to a long kitchen spatula, but it safeguards a big investment.
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Follow Up By: Patrol22 - Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 15:44

Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 15:44
Is THIS what you are thinking of Steve?
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Follow Up By: Steve63 - Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 16:05

Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 16:05
I guess so. I have not seen it myself. A close friend who has just got their first diesel was telling me about them.
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Follow Up By: Member - Frank P (NSW) - Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 16:16

Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 16:16
It would also help if fuel companies standardised the colour coding of their nozzles.

It should be an Aus/NZ standard.

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Follow Up By: Member - Noldi (WA) - Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 16:36

Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 16:36
Looks like a simple and cheap device to save you a lot of money
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Follow Up By: Lex M - Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 17:01

Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 17:01
RACQ Qld sell this one
http://www.racq.com.au/my_racq/racq_online_shop/diesel_mis-fuelling_device
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 19:13

Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 19:13
The diesel nozzles are the same size as the old unleaded petrol nozzles. The newer unleaded fuel cars are fitted with a smaller filler so that the unleaded petrol nozzles will fit.

Both of those links show and/or explain that you use the diesel nozzle to remove the cap of the device to allow filling. The video in the first link clearly shows that the petrol nozzle will not release the cap.

If you have the device fitted then you will not be able to use a high flow nozzle unless you remove the protection device.


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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 19:21

Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 19:21
Bugger, another missed word. The second line of followup 9 should read:

"fitted with a smaller filler so that the unleaded petrol nozzles will NOT fit."

The unleaded nozzles are the smallest for all fuels.




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Reply By: The Bantam - Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 21:25

Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 21:25
so just to clarify.

The current low flow diesel nozzle is the same size as the old super and standard nozzles that are no longer in use.

The unleaded nozzle is smaller than the low flow diesel.

The high flow diesel nozzle is bigger.

The high flow nozzle fits in most diesel tank fillers...and damn right it should.

Because that is where the freshest fuel comes from.

So ya need to make ya filler the right size for a high flow nozzle if ya tank is for diesel......

The easiest way is to get a toyota tray body ( hilux or 70 series) filler assemby from the wreckers or genuine if you are feeling rich...problem solved.
I supose you could get a matching brand to the existing and get keyed alike caps.

If you are building the tank don't forget the fill breather has to be big enough...like 16mm.

Its a realy good idea to elivate the tank breather and fit a filter to keep the wasps out and the bulldust from building up...the gortex filters they use for diff breathers are great.

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Reply By: Member - Noldi (WA) - Friday, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:49

Friday, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:49
Thanks everyone, as stated sounds like the best option is to make sure the filler and pipe are off a diesel. Also like the sound of the diesel savers, not sure whey the big price difference between the UK and here but I'll check it out

Happy holidays everyone, keep safe
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