Wow my first ad with trading post and I get a scam!

Mick

I haven't even spoken to him, just the written word.

What a rat. We are down the central coast at the moment and having a garage sale on Saturday and thought I might be lucky and sell the both, and I thought I might be lucky when I got his first message. LOL

He didn't happen to be overseas on a ship and buying it for his father then says he is deaf and can't use the phone ?.

I had one like this when I tried to sell a swag recently

Trev

Hasn't mentioned the deaf bit, but I'll keep that one in mind.

... that's what they want you to do.

After the transaction they ask paypal to refund the money which paypal does and then charges it to your credit card if your account is empty.

I have only ever purchased items, never sold anything through Paypal.
It seems strange that Paypal would refund money to the buyer without the seller's approval.
Are you sure that this occurs?

Rob! thanks for the warning
I have since checked on the internet and it appears that Paypal have refunded the buyer's money without the sellers approval on a number of occasions - Thanks for the warning, I would never sell costly items through Paypal as the risk appears to great.

I am very wary of Paypal now.....have been using them for a couple of years as a purchaser and recently got an email from them asking me to confirm that my credit card was still vaild as my total purchases over the years were approaching 10K and they would stop that card once I reached the 410k until I verified it...........

the verification was as simple as yes that quoted number is correct with out giving the card numbers to the email......they stated that they would deduct $2 out to see if it was still vaild and then put the $2 back in in a couple of days......sounded suss to me I ignored it

a week or so later I made another purchase on ebay using paypal and instantly i received email re the purchase and once again the same verification request...seeing as it was instant it was "obvious" to me that the email had to from paypal as it was simultaneously as the transcation details

so mug me did it..the $2 came out and a few days later the $2 came in..and about two weeks later my card started being used deducting amounts from "garmin europe"...the bank picked it up before me and stopped the card......

I reckon this is all related and either paypal is a shade of grey or their database is compromised somehow

oh for an edit button..the spending total over the years was $10k...and when I checked my records that was right and so some one somehow has a data base

Bungarra,

Yep it is standard for paypal to comfirm your card with a deduction of $2 and then a return of the $2.

I had a card hit on the net to the tune of $10600, the transactions were done from the british isles and gear ordered around the world.

Bank stopped the card and returned the money. When I spoke to them they weren't phased at all and said it happens all the time.

The card hadn't been out of my sight but someone got the details from an online transaction of some sort.

RA.

Rule # 1 of online security
NEVER EVER EVER click on links on an email.

Rob...

I agree with you I never have and never will click on links.......this $2 thing was all through paypal...no clink on links...

Rockape tells me that $2 thingy is standard practise so maye it was a coincidence the timing of my card scam

since then I have another card with a small limit that I am now using for any online purchases.......keeping my main one for face to face transactions........

bungarra
I've come across this a couple of times and have contacted PayPal re these 'enquiries/requests' and was told that they were scams and to ignore/delete them

Mike

Mike,
I was talking to paypal this morning about my card not being confirmed and the $2 dollar thing is correct, they do withdraw $2 and replace it to make sure the card is genuine.

The only thing I don't do is click a link from an email, I always go to there site and go from there.

This is from Paypal

You linked your debit or credit card to your PayPal account on 5 Aug 2011. To make sure the card is yours, we made a small charge to it that you'll need to confirm (and we'll refund the money to your PayPal account when you're done).

The charge creates a unique four-digit code on your card statement. If you don't see the charge right away, don't worry — sometimes it takes a few days to show up. If you can't check your card statement online, check your paper statement when it comes in the mail (this can take up to 30 days). You will find the charge from PayPal with a four-digit code.

Have a good one,
RA.

I am with you on that Mike...the bit that troubles me is that for those scammers to pick up instantly that you have made a transaction............to know your email address (it is hidden) and to have the scam arrive within seconds of the genuine email from ebay / paypal concerns me greatly that the data base or whatever is copromised in some way for these scammers

Hi RA

I can see where you are coming from because that email is exactly what is there when you make contact with paypal.....I received the same word for word...

What troubles me is that if transactions have been placed for a number of years (as mine have been) on the same account and the same card and there is never a query on purchases and payments then quite obviously the "card" is genuine and the paypal verification is totally unecessary.

Obvioulsy if there were fraudalent transactions then the paypal customer (us) would have done something about the card.........

Waht I am trying to say is that there is absolutley no need for paypal to do the $2 thingy at all........

Yes my $2 went out and in...and so I relaxed and then within a couple of weeks funny amounts (like $234.45 and $481.21) started being paid to Garmin Europe.......little less alarming amounts like that to what appears to be a reputable business is how things slip through........it was the bank that picked it up before I did because we were away out the bush and didnt know until we got a couple of hundred dollars of fuel in the tank only to find out the bank had picked up on it and cancelled it the card unbenown to us....(and what to do next is another story having got the fuel !)

I guess I am syaing that whilst Paypall is genuine I am not satisfied that there is not some form of hacking going on within paypal and that $2 thing is damn fishy to me

Mate,
I am hearing you and I can understand your apprehension.

You must have had a seizure when the card was declined after getting fuel.

I believe the bank security looks at fraudulent transactions and then try's to find a common link. IE. paypal or a trader. The bank told me when I was ripped off that it could have been threw and online purchase or a card scanner, they said some of the
units are very hard to detect.

One thing though the banks don't haggle they just return your money.

by the way mine definitely wasn't ripped of threw my paypal account as I hadn't used it for a good while.