LED strip lighting effectiveness?

Submitted: Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:56
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We are considering replacing our fluorescent bulbs with LED strips and were wondering how much we need for effective lighting inside our ct. One metre, 2 metres, or more? Also, how tough are the strips if permanently attached to the bows? We have a hard floor AussieSwag.

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Reply By: Mick O - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 12:26

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 12:26
I've been using a 1 metre rigid strip LED that I've found to be excellent. Reviewed it on the blog site.


Product Review - LED Strip Lights

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Follow Up By: Member - Min (NSW) - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 20:38

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 20:38
Mick,
Thanks for that, it sounds better than expected. I'll check it out.
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Follow Up By: Member - Min (NSW) - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 22:04

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 22:04
Hi again Mick,

Your product review is excellent. I should have checked the blogs before my post, but then maybe some other folk have benefitted from the responses, and it has drawn attention to your product reviews.

Thank you for your contributions to this site.

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Reply By: Robin Miller - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 13:09

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 13:09
Hi Min

The light quality and colour vary a lot with LEDs and its easy to buy a product that fails early.

You shouldn't buy it in terms of length - its like buying a tankful of petrol with no idea as to how big the tank is.

Only buy on a specification and for light in your camper you need around 600 lumens of light.

The light colour used is white or some people prefer "warm white" which is a little yellower.

Good quality LEDs will give your 600 lumens using about 10 watts of power.

As a practical matter its better to have a couple of light sources so that you may optimize light or have a lower level to save power.

E.G. 1 to help in food preparation and another positioned for maybe reading.

LEDs life specification should be in excess of 30,000 hours.

Its easy for cheap suppliers to pump more current through LEDs so they
glow brighter and die as they turn the plastic encapsulation yellow .

Don't buy from anywhere that can't give you above details.






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Follow Up By: Rob! - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 17:20

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 17:20
As Robin mentioned, make sure you get good quality LED's if you want to maintain efficiency.

While the LED technlogy has come along way, the light output is only on par with CFL's when you compare the number of lumnes produced per watt. And that is only i the high quality LED's. There are also some arguements that the two are hard to compare as LED's shine the light only in one direction unlike CFL's

Here's a little comparison table

lighting efficiency

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Follow Up By: Member - Min (NSW) - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 20:54

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 20:54
Hi Robin & Rob,

Thanks for this info it is exactly what we need to make a decision. And I take your point that quality is the way to go.

The table makes interesting reading. I take the point that comparisons are not easy.

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Reply By: Member - Mark (Tamworth NSW) - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 14:16

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 14:16
We bought a 1m (90 LED?) strip from I thought the Explore Oz shop. Works well inside our Kimberly Kamper. Fix to either roof bow or cantilever frame side with Velcro
Provides more than adequate lighting for general use, though we supplument with in built OE bed reading lights for night reading.
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Follow Up By: Member - Min (NSW) - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 20:59

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 20:59
Hi Mark,
That gives me a good feel for what we need. You obviously have no problems with the lights mounted that way.
Many thanks,
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Reply By: DOEY- Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 14:53

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 14:53
Hi guys

we have a softfloor 9' camper. We use a 1m strip which is attached to velcro. We attach it permanently to the peak of the roof inside the camper and its not affected by folding the camper up. We find 1m of the stuff works really well inside and i agree about the above comment re lighting colour. We find the yellower light more natural and we we use this inside but we also use 1m of white led strip for outside, its better to read under and cook under.
see our photos here
our camper

i buy the leds in 5m rolls for $30 delivered off ebay. You can cut it every 3 leds so its very verstile, uses bugger all power and very cheap.

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Follow Up By: Member - Min (NSW) - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 21:31

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 21:31
Hi Doey,

Thanks for your very practical response.
After looking at your camper and camp sites I can't wait to get on the road again. I like the idea of the swinging rod.

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Reply By: kevmac....(WA) - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 16:06

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 16:06
i replaced all 12 volt globes with LED "globes" (18 led's i think) and provides more than enuf light from each unit with current drain of only 0.23A. Gives equivalent or
that close to incandescant it replaced that aint worth worrying........Out in annexe I have a portable rigid 18LED strip light that provides high quality reading light to all areas of annexe
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Follow Up By: Member - Min (NSW) - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 21:36

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 21:36
Hi Kevmac,

We were originally thinking only of inside but everyone seems so happy with the LEDs that I think we might find a way of fitting some on the outside as well. They seem to be tough.

Many thanks,
Min
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Reply By: Member - Leanne W (NSW) - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 20:35

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 20:35
Hi Min,
We have a hard floor Aussie Swag, it is now about 2 years old, and it came with LED strip lighting permanently attached to the middle bow inside the tent. It provides really great light, and folding the camper up with it attached is not a problem. I think Aussie Swag get their led strip lights from kulkyne campers - you could give Aussie Swag a ring to check. I have always found them very helpful with all after sales stuff.
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Follow Up By: Member - Min (NSW) - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 21:45

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 21:45
Hi Leanne,

Good to hear from another Aussie Swag owner. I hope you are as happy as we are after 10 years. We always say hello to Julia and Noel whenever we see them at the shows. They have been very helpful about our queries regarding making improvements to our ct but we have never asked about the lighting although we certainly noticed it.

Thanks for responding,
Min
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Follow Up By: Member - nrb1748 (VIC) - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 21:47

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 21:47
Aussie Swag started installing a longer LED strip about two or three years ago. So if Min's is older it will have the smaller LED strip light.

Regards

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Follow Up By: Member - Min (NSW) - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 21:58

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 21:58
Hi nrb1748,

I don't think LEDs were invented when we bought our camper!

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Reply By: Member - Wayne B (NSW) - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 21:02

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 21:02
I got two cheep LSDs on Ebay.
I got what I payed for had to strike a match to see if they were on.
These were only 18" long. After reading these posts I will try another larger LED as they are easy to fix to the camper trailer inside and out

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Min (NSW) - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 21:49

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 21:49
Hi Wayne,
Thanks for sharing your experience. I think the message is to go for the output (lumens) rather than length of strip.

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Reply By: Mrbrush - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 21:13

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 21:13
I bought these for my CT and zip tie them to any tent pole inside or out then you can point them to where you need more light
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http://cgi.ebay.com.au/4-X-52-CM-WHITE-LED-LIGHT-BARS-12V-BOAT-CARAVAN-CAMPING_W0QQitemZ150622529610QQihZ005QQcategoryZ102814QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Follow Up By: Mrbrush - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 21:25

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 21:25
With this set of four I put 1 inside camper
1 under camper awning
1 for inside trailer
1 above kitchen
They give plenty light
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Follow Up By: Member - Min (NSW) - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 22:09

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 22:09
Hi Mrbrush,

Thanks for your response. I like the idea of some fixed and some moveable.

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Follow Up By: outsider - Thursday, Jun 30, 2011 at 00:42

Thursday, Jun 30, 2011 at 00:42
This mob used to sell a kit with the lights, leads and switches ready to plug in and use but doesn't seem to have any at them moment.
http://stores.ebay.com.au/RvLights?_trksid=p4340.l2563

was a easy install in my mates camper trailer.

I got some of the lights for my campervan and love them
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Reply By: napalm_999 - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 22:04

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 22:04
Doesn't look like I need to preach any more... but I love em! Best thing is no shadows over the kitchen area unlike our "burn ya retinas out" fluro. Also, nowhere near the number of bugs.
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Follow Up By: Member - Min (NSW) - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 22:12

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 22:12
Hi napalm,
Interested to hear about the shadows and bugs.

Thanks,
Min
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