Speeding fine after 21 years
Submitted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 17:32
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carlsp
In the mail yesterday I recieved notice, that I had an unpaid speeding fine from 1990.
Has anyone had something happen and is such a notice legal. It comes from Queensland Government and for a fine in
Brisbane 21 year ago.
Is there a limit of old speeding fines. Any help appreciated.
Reply By: snoopyone - Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 17:48
Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 17:48
The obvious place to find out is at the senders office as they will know the correct answer.
You will get numerous answers and opinions on here, none necessarily correct.
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Reply By: TTTSA - Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 18:15
Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 18:15
I have heard last week that the SA Govt is tendering 40 Million dollars worth of outstanding fines to private debt collection agencies, I don't think you are going to be the only one in that boat.
Peter
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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 21:28
Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 21:28
What you will probably find is the SA Govt has sold the outstanding fines to a private company just like Testra does.
It's upto the collection company the chase the debt.
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Reply By: Member Al (Sunshine Coast) - Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 18:21
Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 18:21
Carl, If the fine was at the 1990 penalty $ I'd say count your lucky stars and pay it quick. If they have added interest, I'd say move your address fast! LOL
But I would bet it's legal. Old debts never die. Don't even fade away!
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Reply By: Member - Brian R (WA) - Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 18:28
Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 18:28
Hi
Just curious ????? how much was the fine? was it still 1990 rate ?
Must admit it has been a long time coming???
Brian
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Reply By: get outmore - Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 18:29
Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 18:29
not a scam is it?
i was under the impresion if you didnt pay a speeding fine it went to court
If you are in your states AA organistation contact them - they have a legal department and should be able to help
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Follow Up By: member - mazcan - Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 19:07
Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 19:07
hi carlsp
scam that was and is my thoughts too
some scams are very convincing so i would be double checking before i paid it
you have every right to prove it valid or not
fools and their money are soon parted
cheers
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Reply By: BarryR1 - Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 18:35
Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 18:35
Mate I think you've got the converted warrants that would have been taken out when you failed to pay the fine 21 years ago. If my recollection of form 5 legal studies is correct, it's a 12 month statute iof limitations on minor offences and no statutory time frame on serious offences (crimes). If you can't be found after the offence or avoid the fine or fail to pay it, they issue summonses and when you don't turn up at court, they issue a warrant. Warrant expires when you do lol.
Pay it or the Sherrifs department will come and take your 4x4 (or DVD player and tele).
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Reply By: Crackles - Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 18:48
Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 18:48
Take it to court. It's highly likely the police officer who booked you has long retired ;-)
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Follow Up By: TTTSA - Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 18:57
Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 18:57
Please, I hope he does take it to court, and pay $600.00 for wasting the judges time.
Be a man and pay it, if you did the crime, pay the fine
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Reply By: TerraFirma - Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 18:58
Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 18:58
Yeah I would be giving them a reply as follows:
1. You have no unpaid fines of any description
2. You were away on holidays at the time the fine was issued (According to their paperwork, if they provide any going into those sort of details.) Unfortunately you don't have any paperwork going back that far to verify you were away.
3. You will dispute the fine on the basis of it's age along with other reasons in a court of law.
Thats about it.! You could always nominate another driver as
well, got any enemys.? LOL..!
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Follow Up By: The Landy - Wednesday, May 18, 2011 at 10:32
Wednesday, May 18, 2011 at 10:32
"Thats about it.! You could always nominate another driver as
well, got any enemys.? LOL..!"
Judge Marcus Einfeld can fill you in on the details on how not to do it...he spent a couple of years in jail for doing just that.
Quite a serious offence, and not worth it for the sake of judging a speeding fine...
But I'm sure you were in jest :)
Cheers, The Landy
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Reply By: Kimba10 - Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 19:18
Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 19:18
Not sure in QLD but here in NSW if you have an unpaid speeding fine or
parking ticket etc you cant renew your rego or licence. You obviously have done both ?? Do you even remember getting it ?? Wouldnt have been a camera in those days so would have been handed to you I would expect ?? Now that they have sent it to you I would be waiting for a reminder and see if you get one of them, they might send the reminder in another 21 years LOL. Regards Steve
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 22:17
Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 22:17
I would throw it in the bin....and see if you get another one in 21 years time.
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Follow Up By: Hairy (WA) - Wednesday, May 18, 2011 at 10:06
Wednesday, May 18, 2011 at 10:06
Yeah.......Im with you Doug. A 42 year old fine will be worth bugger all. LOL
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Reply By: Member - Stuart P (WA) - Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 23:53
Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 23:53
the statute of limitatations is i think 7 years
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Reply By: gbc - Wednesday, May 18, 2011 at 05:51
Wednesday, May 18, 2011 at 05:51
Contact SPER in Qld., they handle old fines. Don't know what it stands for though.
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Follow Up By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Wednesday, May 18, 2011 at 10:07
Wednesday, May 18, 2011 at 10:07
State Penalties Enforcement Registry
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Reply By: reversemulletman - Wednesday, May 18, 2011 at 08:44
Wednesday, May 18, 2011 at 08:44
It's a government agency, as such it's all about the dollar and
clearing out their books. Most people will pay as they feel they have to. Tell them you want to contest it. The copper who issued it probably only has 3 lines of notes on the incident, thats if a) he/she is still in the job. b) is even alive c) can even remember the incident to ID you. Unless you carried on like a pork chop and the incident is burnt in the members memory. Most accountable documents have a 7 year life span before they're destroyed, at least in Victoria. Chances are theres very little information. I'd give it run.
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Reply By: new boy - Wednesday, May 18, 2011 at 10:11
Wednesday, May 18, 2011 at 10:11
Carlsp
Would you please let the
forum know the outcome I for one am certainly curious on whether it,s a scam or legit. Thanks
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Follow Up By: Life Member - esarby (NSW) - Wednesday, May 18, 2011 at 12:21
Wednesday, May 18, 2011 at 12:21
If it came from
Queensland, it is probably a " SCAM " I receive one two years ago. It said I had been clocked at 78 klms in a 50 zone in Chinchilla. I have never been to Chinchilla. I just binned it. Steve.B.....
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Reply By: Simon (NT) - Wednesday, May 18, 2011 at 16:27
Wednesday, May 18, 2011 at 16:27
I'm pretty sure that the fine would have expired by now. Most fines have to be issued within a certain time, say 6 months of the date of the offence at the very outside..
Definitely RING the cops up there - DON'T ring the number on the letter as it'll sound like its the cops, if it's a scam they'll answer it with a very official sounding way.
Call the QLD Police, ask to speak with the fines enforcement section (or equivalent to that) and then ask them (don't tell them about the letter at the start) how long a fine is valid for, how long the police have to collect that fine, etc, etc.. then when they ask you why you are asking explain this letter.. my bet is they'll tell you it's a scam, but ring the normal 'enquiries' number for the QLD Police and ask to be put through to the right department, that way you can be 100% sure you've actually got the cops not some scammers who make themselves sound like the cops but don't actually say they are.
And yes, please let everyone know what goes on with it.
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Follow Up By: Simon (NT) - Wednesday, May 18, 2011 at 16:28
Wednesday, May 18, 2011 at 16:28
PS. While I was in the cops there was a time limit to prosecute someone for a moving traffic violation.
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Reply By: just a - Tuesday, May 24, 2011 at 09:49
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 at 09:49
sure you didnt pay it with cash back in the 90s, youve lost the receit, but you remember paying it, a good driver like yourself, would always pay the fine. lol
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