VMS or OZI
Submitted: Wednesday, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:24
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Member - Noel C (NSW)
Hi I like the idea of map reading etc that is availble useing an IPAD with VMS.
Age is get to me so the bigger screen is great.
I also know OZI Explorer is a good software tool for mapping.
My preferance would be to run Ozi on a Ipad but I beleive that cant happen.
I,m be intersested in peoples thoughts
Reply By: Member - John and Val - Wednesday, Apr 20, 2011 at 13:23
Wednesday, Apr 20, 2011 at 13:23
Noel,
Have you considered using a tablet style pc running Ozi under window? I'm currently setting up a hp TC1100 tablet (a few years old now, with an 8"x6" screen) to run Ozi. For the last few years our gps has been a micro desktop pc installed out the back with a dash mounted 9" touch screen, running Ozi with a mouse style gps receiver. Worked
well and survived the worst corrugations, but ties up cargo space. Can't yet vouch for it's successor, but I'm optimistic.
Suggest have a look at tablets. Ebay is a good catalogue, even if you don't buy there.
Cheers
John | J and V
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Reply By: TerraFirma - Wednesday, Apr 20, 2011 at 13:40
Wednesday, Apr 20, 2011 at 13:40
Yeah OZI Explorer need to get this happening, I can't believe they still develop for the windows mobile only. Personally I wouldn't buy a windows tablet just to run this app, the Ipad has literally thousands of apps that drive the sales. Time for some changes boys.
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Reply By: Member - Albert (VIC) - Wednesday, Apr 20, 2011 at 13:43
Wednesday, Apr 20, 2011 at 13:43
I've looked into this with great interest. I think the concept of being able to scroll and find detailed maps with a single click is ingenious. Also the ability to pinch and stretch the maps while on the go would make like so much easier!
I've phoned VMS to enquire about this product and have found the following items to consider.
Firstly, the product is a MudMap development and what VMS have done is to combine this with a few additional maps. This in itself is not a great issue.
Secondly, you are not able to add any of your current ozi maps to this product. Now this becomes a bit of an issue, especially considering the costs associate with having bought them in the first place.
The last, and yes for me the deal breaker was even though I cannot load the current ozi maps that I have and use it with this product, I am (according to them) also not able to buy additional maps to add on in the future !!!!! Now THAT is a deal breaker.
If the last two issues get resolved you will definitely see me fashioning an iPad with VMS or MudMap.
In the meanwhile, I see that Telstra is soon to launch the New GENII Android tablets and
the drip fed reviews sound awesome. Could be the answer and the best of all worlds....
Albert
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Follow Up By: Member - Noel C (NSW) - Wednesday, Apr 20, 2011 at 14:32
Wednesday, Apr 20, 2011 at 14:32
Can Ozi ru on these Andriod tablets. i also note Motorola just brought out a tablet can Ozi run on these?
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Wednesday, Apr 20, 2011 at 19:20
Wednesday, Apr 20, 2011 at 19:20
Noel C, the answer is ......almost.
They currently have a free beta version of it here
Oziexplorer Android beta test code
I have a copy on my HTC and while still basic it works great. The real version is supposed to be June.
Also the VMS software is really just an OEM'ed Memory Map.
Memory Map site
They have an IPAD version and will release an Android version in about 2 months.
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Reply By: vk1dx - Wednesday, Apr 20, 2011 at 19:39
Wednesday, Apr 20, 2011 at 19:39
I would just like to clear a little thing up for you.
VMS is a company that make a box (computer) that goes into the dash and it has a radio, DVD player, USB input and blue tooth connectivity and other things.
OziExplorer (Ozi) is a map display program that runs on either the full Windows platform (operating system) or the commercial Windows CE platform.
You buy the box (VMS, netbook,
home PC or laptop) and run the program OziExploorer on it.
Phil
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Follow Up By: Muddy.au - Wednesday, Apr 20, 2011 at 20:40
Wednesday, Apr 20, 2011 at 20:40
That is not completely true Phil, VMS also have navigation apps for Apples boxes, I Phone and I Pad.
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Wednesday, Apr 20, 2011 at 20:42
Wednesday, Apr 20, 2011 at 20:42
All I am trying to say is that VMS is the hardware Ozi is the software.
Phil
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Wednesday, Apr 20, 2011 at 21:13
Wednesday, Apr 20, 2011 at 21:13
Muddy whomever (unknown name)
Do you understand what I was saying.
Phil
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Follow Up By: Muddy.au - Thursday, Apr 21, 2011 at 06:45
Thursday, Apr 21, 2011 at 06:45
Yes Phil I do, but the original post was a question about software choice.
David
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Thursday, Apr 21, 2011 at 06:52
Thursday, Apr 21, 2011 at 06:52
Actually vk1dx, almost right, the software isn't Ozi, it's "Memory Map" with VMS branding on it. VMS do sell the Memory Map Iphone software that runs on apple tablets and not the VMS hardware.
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Thursday, Apr 21, 2011 at 09:12
Thursday, Apr 21, 2011 at 09:12
Come on fellas.
All I was doing was exactly what I said "I would just like to clear a little thing up for you". That was pleasant and quite easy to understand. The heading was asking about comparing hardware with software. You cannot compare apples and oranges.
Neither was I saying what is supplied on the VMS box. In fact, in our case Oziexplorer was supplied on it.
Why cannot people read and understand what I said to start with.
I do not have, nor want, any iphone, ipad or whatever. I don't even use my mobile. I know virtually nothing about them or pads etc etc. However I do know a hell of a lot about the difference between hardware and software, with tertiary education in both fields.
That is why I did not attempt to answer his question.
Phil
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Thursday, Apr 21, 2011 at 09:25
Thursday, Apr 21, 2011 at 09:25
Good, I am glad that's cleared up. The OP asked about IPAD, you answered about something you know about but nothing to do witht he question, but you know virtually nothing about the IPAD which was the OP's question.
Okkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!!!
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Thursday, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:47
Thursday, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:47
Please quote me verbatum the OPs question?
You still had a dig at me, didn't you. Even though I said "know virtually nothing about them " and "not attempt to answer his question." Why, when you were wrong in your first follow up in inferring that VMS does not come with Ozi, and thus my post was wrong? In all respects my post was NOT wroing at all. And then you get upset when I attemp to correct you.
Phil
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Thursday, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:54
Thursday, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:54
Whatever you say Phil. Glad you are happy.
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Thursday, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:10
Thursday, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:10
Fair enough
Cheers
Phil
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Reply By: mikehzz - Wednesday, Apr 20, 2011 at 21:02
Wednesday, Apr 20, 2011 at 21:02
I'm running Bit Map on my ipad and it reads all my ozi maps (oz2f format) without conversion. Cost under $10 I think. Just transfered them onto the ipad using itunes and bingo. It does most of the things ozi does. A big thanks to one of the other forumites who put me onto it a few weeks ago. Mike
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Reply By: vk1dx - Thursday, Apr 21, 2011 at 09:20
Thursday, Apr 21, 2011 at 09:20
Noel
If you follow the secondary thread following my first post you may get a little confused. I was NOT answering your question as I do not know enough about Ipads to do so. I was just trying to show how in your thread title that you were asking about comparing hardware and software. That's a bit like comparing apples and oranges.
Next time I think that I will just keep quiet. I will say though, that your preference to use Ozi, is spot on.
Also personally an in-dash unit is both safer from bouncing around and more secure against the casual window breaking car accessory thief.
Apologies if it threw you off track.
Phil
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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Thursday, Apr 21, 2011 at 19:05
Thursday, Apr 21, 2011 at 19:05
Hey Phil, totally not wanting to stir you up at all, but VMS do make software only as
well. It runs on the Apple products. So comparing Ozi and VMS is quite valid when talking of iPads or iPhones. Cheers mate, Mike
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Thursday, Apr 21, 2011 at 19:36
Thursday, Apr 21, 2011 at 19:36
Like the other bloke said Agggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Thursday, Apr 21, 2011 at 20:27
Thursday, Apr 21, 2011 at 20:27
Fair enough.
Unlike others I will admit that I am wrong.
Phil
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