Water pump

Submitted: Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 23:03
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I want to make a water pump similar to the Tanami fuel pump, so that it would be easier to top up the Avan without trying to hold up heavey water bottles.

Has anyone tried this?

Myles
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Reply By: Member - Serendipity(WA) - Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 23:57

Friday, Apr 01, 2011 at 23:57
Yes - A member who has not posted in a long time (Willem) put a post up with pictures of his home made tanami fuel pump. Do a search on tanami pump and it will come up. Don't know the post number sorry.








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Reply By: member - mazcan - Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 10:34

Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 10:34
hi
i also made my own tanami type transfer pump for fuel
but i dont have any pics
what i have found is the best pressure for fuel transfer is 3- 4psi
higher will put too much force and burst /stretch your container i'm talking steel
lower pressure will not shift much especially water as its a bit heavier than diesel
so your water bottles as you have called them would need to be able to withstand this pressure and then the other thing is the cap or attaching device will need to be strong
i used a steel bung out of a 44 gal drum for my fuel pump as i was able to oxy weld/ braze the fittings into it i used 5/16 brass fittings and copper pipe
i dont think i would trust scewing a threaded fitting into a polly cap as it could blow out and take out an eye etc where air pressure in involved
there are car type valves availuble that can be used in a poly type caps/tanks etc
they have a t-piece base and 2 seals you drill a hole andpush the valve through with seal on it and the other seal goes on top with seal and nut

im not sure what the bottles are that you refer to
(and like most who ask for help or ideas you have left me and other readers in the dark )
or if they have a bung in the bottom where a poly tap crews in as your probably aware that you have to have an inlet for the air and an out let for the water indivdual of each other or side by side in the cap if its larger enough ?????? hope the imfo is of some help
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barry

there are also poly tank outlets same design but larger that u can screw a cap or tap onto
on one occassion when a new auxillary transfer pump failed on an aluminuim tank on the gunbarrel hyw i remove the filler cap and held the compressor nozzle in the filler neck with a piece af rag wrapped tighly around it and manage to transfer the 123ltrs of diesel contents on rest of the trips fillups
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Follow Up By: member - mazcan - Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 10:48

Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 10:48
hi mynance
i have also made up a shower system out of an old 6ltr hardi spayer with a car valve in it and place an old oxy pessure guage and control on the air line so i can control the air pressure and flow of water so the shower and water comes through at a regular pressure maximizing the use of the limited water supply and is used with a folding shower cubicle

thats why i have been able to work out the optimin pressure for fuel and water tranfer using the air inline oxy gauge
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Reply By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 10:41

Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 10:41
Hi Myles,

I am about to make up a pump for that job and for pumping direct from a creek or river.

I am using a caravan type pressure pump which I got from Ebay.
Fitted an anderson plug to the pump and made up a long lead using heavy cable such as used on low voltage garden lights, with an anderson plug on each end.
I can then plug into back of car, front of van, or anywhere else I have an anderson plug. Bought the anderson plugs off ebay bu the 10 pack for $27.

the pumps are self priming so a suction line into your drum and a delivery line into the van water filler.
Extend the length of the delivery line and you won't need to use the drums in some circumstances.

Hope this helps.
Cheers, Bruce.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 10:46

Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 10:46
Reason for the long electrical lead is to keep the suction line short if I cannot get down into or beside the creek.
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Follow Up By: member - mazcan - Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 10:56

Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 10:56
hi bruce
i think your idea of using a small self priming pressure pump like your going to do
is a dam site easier than trying to make a tanami type pump although i dont mind a challenge some times
this would be the easier way of transferring water from these mistery so called bottles as above
cheers barry
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 13:23

Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 13:23
Hi Barry,

I think we all enjoy a challenge mate. Thats why we have a shed so we can sit and contemplate a problem.

However I am a firm believer in the KISS principle as the simplest is best. Less to go wrong and less to repair.

However the Tanami pump was obviously designed to get away from electrical sparks I guess.

Mind you this is the first time I have ever heard of it and were it not for your explanation I would have still been in the dark.

To get fuel from a container I set the container higher than the filler pipe of whatever I am filling into and I use one of those plastic fillers you can get from Repco.

Looks like an ordinary bowser hand nozzle made of plastic, red of course for faster filling (LOL) and you put the pickup pipe into your drum and squeeze the handle a few times to get the syphon going and hol;d the handle down till you have finished then let it go.

No fuel in the mouth, next to no spillage and as easy as can be.

I'll see if I can find it and put in a link.

Cheers, Bruce.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 14:08

Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 14:08
Here is the fuel pump I was talking about.

FLOn'GO
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 14:11

Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 14:11
The link did not seem to work so I will put the URL here.

Cut and paste into your address bar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzl_uTbGrBE
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 14:17

Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 14:17
The Duramax FLOn'GO I have does not come with its own tank as shown in the video.

You merely insert the pickup pipe into a gerry can or any container.
Great little setup. I cannot recall the price.

Cheers, Bruce.
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Follow Up By: mynance - Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 15:36

Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 15:36
OK you have all convinced me to use one of those shower pumps, will put a anderson plug on the back of the van as well.


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Reply By: Member - Rod N (QLD) - Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 11:11

Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 11:11
Tanami pumps are available for a number of different containers. You may find one that suits your use. If you do make your own make sure you fit a pressure safety valve.
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Reply By: Member -Dodger - Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 11:19

Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 11:19
Just slip into a camping shop and purchase a portable shower. They are around the $30 mark. The pump from this will mt a 20ltr drum in about 3 to 5 minutes and they plug into a cigar lighter fitting. I have one and I simply put the pump into and old stocking for filtering the water. You can then pump directly from a stream , bucket or whatever you have water in. The pump is small enough to fit through most 20ltr caps.




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Reply By: Jeffrey B2 - Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 16:35

Saturday, Apr 02, 2011 at 16:35
To save going too close to some streams up north I have a couple of spare tent poles with a small bilge pump attached.

Pumps up to about 8 feet.

For washing machine water and showering this works a treat and is easily connected to an extension lead from car or van.

It is simple and safe and for showers most of the time you don't need hot water.

I use anderson plugs for everything, Lights, Van fridge, pumps, boat trailer winch and even a converted 12 volt power drill running off an extension lead.

Very simple, safe and effective.

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