cHelp for choosing a 4WD drive?
Submitted: Friday, Feb 25, 2011 at 23:53
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Hi guys, I'm gonna buy a used 4wd, the main use for city and hwy driving, but also want to go for a trip maybe twice a month means the vehicle has some offroad potential, already have a look for Wrangler, TERRITORY. Bugget about $30k, any good suggesttion? Thanks!
Reply By: nick b - Saturday, Feb 26, 2011 at 07:54
Saturday, Feb 26, 2011 at 07:54
gooday Chris ;If your going to tow a van you might ask the
forum how good is the chassis on these vehicle's for towing !
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Reply By: Madfisher - Saturday, Feb 26, 2011 at 08:09
Saturday, Feb 26, 2011 at 08:09
Territory while a great vehicle to drive is NOT a off road vehicle and does not even stand up to rough roads
well.
Problem is soft roaders can get you into trouble when you are camped some where and you gets heaps of rain or the track suddenly takes a turn for the worst, and it is difficult to turn around.
But prados, Pajs Jacks are all good off road and reasonable on road. The paj is especially good on road, although they get a bit troublesome after 200000ks.
Jeeps have a following, but have awfull resale which means they are not in demand on the 2nd hand market. They are allsome Yankee built so no where the build quality of anything built in japan.
In soft roaders the Klugers are ecomical, roomy and built by toyota.
Cheers Pete
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Saturday, Feb 26, 2011 at 09:47
Saturday, Feb 26, 2011 at 09:47
"Jeeps......have awfull resale which means they are not in demand on the 2nd hand market. They are also Yankee built so no where the build quality of anything built in japan."
Maybe 10 years ago Pete but not any more. I have both a Landcruiser & a Wrangler. The Cruiser has had 7 major repairs (over $500) including 4 blown front diffs & 3 recalls while the Jeep has had one major repair & 2 recalls. I was very reluctant to buy a Jeep based on previous experience but must say things have changed as since owning one it has been excellent & the backup from Jeep 1st class (Better than Toyota)
As for resale Wranglers in particular are often difficult to source being in demand by
young 1st time car owners although you may be right when it comes to Cherokees. My Jeep has lost a similar $ value to a Prado of the same age yet comes standard with far more features not that they should be directly compared anyway as they are built for different end uses.
Chris for $30K you could pick up a 2 to 3 year old Wrangler including a 2 door Rubicon with a few assesories being a great looking town runabout that also happens to be the most capable 4 wheel drive built.
Cheers Craig...............
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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Saturday, Feb 26, 2011 at 11:35
Saturday, Feb 26, 2011 at 11:35
Must admit Toyota seem to be losing the plot a bit, although with a fleet of 130 odd vehicles we have less troubles with toyotas then any else.
Interesting my 13 year old Jack has only ever had shocks and a manifold gasket,shame they do not make them any more. I use to think that they where as good as Prados, I now know they where a lot better after seeing the expense some of my Prado owning mates have had. Ditto with pajs after 200ks as
well. We have two other Jacks as
well and all have been trouble free.
Thanks for your input.
Cheers Pete
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Reply By: Chris S3 - Saturday, Feb 26, 2011 at 08:51
Saturday, Feb 26, 2011 at 08:51
I'm not going to towing a van, but also I hope that the vehicle will be a little newer in my buddget which means vehicles like prado and pajero are over my buddget.
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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Saturday, Feb 26, 2011 at 11:38
Saturday, Feb 26, 2011 at 11:38
You will quickly learn in the 4wd world newer in not always better. ITS condition condition condition and of course a service history. Newer vehicles are proving less reliable then older simpler 4wds.
Cheers Pete
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Follow Up By: Chris S3 - Saturday, Feb 26, 2011 at 20:30
Saturday, Feb 26, 2011 at 20:30
so as you said, I think I will choose a prado, around 2004 year model will fit my buddget. How do you think?
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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Saturday, Feb 26, 2011 at 23:45
Saturday, Feb 26, 2011 at 23:45
Sounds good, try and get a one owner with service history. !kz diesel does have a habit of doing heads, but the 4l petrol is powerfull and reasonably ecomonical.If you can find a one owner their is less chance of it being and ex rental or ex
mine.
Good luck Pete
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Reply By: Member - edwin (QLD) - Saturday, Feb 26, 2011 at 13:36
Saturday, Feb 26, 2011 at 13:36
hi chris,ive got a great 2007 rodeo for sale in the exploroz trader section,please contact me if your interested,thanks
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Reply By: Steve B4 - Saturday, Feb 26, 2011 at 15:50
Saturday, Feb 26, 2011 at 15:50
I just bought a new Ford Escape 2.3 l 4CYL . Goes good quite good.Suprisingly good considering the figures on paper,and I was previously driving a 2007 GT Falcon ,so it was going to struggle to impress me.Using @ 10L: per 100 ATM with less than a thousand k's on board. Off road there are some vids on- you tube.Probably one of the more capable Softies.
26 k new driveaway.
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Reply By: Member - Royce- Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 13:03
Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 13:03
IMHO... it really doesn't matter what you buy. For your purposes the 4x4 aspect is a bonus. Softroaders will go anywhere the big boys will as long as you don't overload them and learn how to handle the particular vehicle you choose.
I suggest you
shop around until you find something you 'fall in love with' then go for it. For city driving as the main use I'd even go for an auto. [as much as I have loathed the ones that we have owned... but then we live in the bush]
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Reply By: G.T. - Monday, Feb 28, 2011 at 17:08
Monday, Feb 28, 2011 at 17:08
Have a look at Series 11 Discovery TD5. Regards G.T.
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