3Litre Hilux Diesel Engines
Submitted: Monday, Feb 21, 2011 at 20:13
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south_maw
Hi everyone
I am looking into purchasing a 4x4 in the near future and i am stuck for ideas. i am interested in the earlier model Hilux's (around 2002-2003).
what is the overall opinion of this model Hilux. does the nonturbo diesel engine lack a lot of power? i have found the turbo variety cost around the 20g mark for a
well looked after example. i currently have a 1993 2.4Litre Hilux, which is as slow as an old bat, so something with a bit more grunt will suit.
this will be my first 4x4, i am looking at having one to toe a campler trailer later down the track, but also for an everyday work car.
any help would be appreciated
cheers
Matt
Reply By: Member - Tanka (NSW) - Monday, Feb 21, 2011 at 20:53
Monday, Feb 21, 2011 at 20:53
Is your current hilux a diesel?
The non turbo 3L motors are not power machines by any length of the chalk, but Hilux's got along a bit better every time the capacity increased. If you plan on towing heavy loads, allow extra time to get there, hills will allow you to enjoy the scenery, also the bigger the tyres you put on, the slower you will go. The 3L will allow you to cruise at posted speeds in most conditions. Turbo models will be quicker again, but as you have seen it will be a tradeoff of speed vs price.
If you want the kind of power that an average roadcar enjoys, you will be better served by a newer gen, common rail turbodiesel, or a petrol powered 4wd.
I would recommend finding one at a dealer and taking it for a drive yourself, get some hills and some freeway in there, as different people have very different perceptions on how much power is enough.
Cheers Tanka.
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Follow Up By: Member - Christopher P (NSW) - Monday, Feb 21, 2011 at 22:13
Monday, Feb 21, 2011 at 22:13
put as turbo and intercooler on yours.
thats what i am going to do when i get some money!!!
cheapish upgrade
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Reply By: Gobumpy - Monday, Feb 21, 2011 at 23:38
Monday, Feb 21, 2011 at 23:38
Hey mate
Be very careful of hiluxs that year I owned a 2003 dual cab with 5LE 3L diesel in it we bought it at 45000ks was a great ute until 96000 when number 3 con road let go smashing the whole engine. Was than told by alot of engine builders importers and mechanics that 2003 was a bad year for poor quality metals and hilux engines seemed to cop the worst as they seen lots blown. Anyway fitted new toyota crate motor and whilst running in at exactly 2000ks more gear box let go another problem with cluster shaft bearings. new gearbox went in and straight to car yard to trade in on a patrol hahaha. 3 weeks later the salesman rang to find out if id installed a new transfer case as
well because the mechanic had taken it for final
check over and it blew as
well. Anyway not saying they are bad just experiance and can show you photos of the whole ordeal. If ya want to know any more feel free to ask.
Scott n Lara
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Follow Up By: Simon C - Tuesday, Feb 22, 2011 at 00:08
Tuesday, Feb 22, 2011 at 00:08
Ditto that. We got 135000 km when number 3 conrod leat go at a set of traffic lights. Pushed a big hole out of the side of
the block. $10K latter and we should have it back this week, I know you may say not worth $10K....but what do you do. Stuffed engine and it is worth nothing. Spend $10K and it is still only worth $10-$15K. any way that is what we did, and need to keep it as a yard runa bout.
Another thing.....these models rev there ring out (3000 to 3200 rpm) at 100ks on the high way.
Simon C
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Follow Up By: Gobumpy - Tuesday, Feb 22, 2011 at 00:14
Tuesday, Feb 22, 2011 at 00:14
Yep number 3 still got the pieces from
the block which I found when we pulled the motor out. Ours went idling through a round about in 3rd when changed down to 2nd BANG
Scott n Lara
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Reply By: bobldo - Tuesday, Feb 22, 2011 at 09:17
Tuesday, Feb 22, 2011 at 09:17
Hey Matt, I suggest you hang onto the one you've got, work your arse off, save some money, buy a later model with a turbo diesel, and be nice to your dad, who might help ya out a bit. Cheers, Dad. Ha ha.
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Reply By: Member - Steve R (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 22, 2011 at 12:17
Tuesday, Feb 22, 2011 at 12:17
Hi south_maw
My son a 2003 Hilux extra cab with the 3.0 litre 5LE diesel with 70k on the clock. It was terribly slow and would die at the mear sight of a
hill. After a lot of research put a Garrett turbo on it (supplied and installed by TurboGlide) and it drives just like a "normal" vehicle should. Have never regretted it. Now has about 110k on the clock goes just fine. Kept up
well with me in my 100 series petrol through the
Simpson desert in 2009.
Regards
Steve
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Reply By: Member - Robert R1 (SA) - Tuesday, Feb 22, 2011 at 14:17
Tuesday, Feb 22, 2011 at 14:17
South_maw,
I had a 1986 2.4l deisel Hilux which was a great vehicle although a bit slow which I didn't mind in the bush. I sold it and my falcon
sedan and initially was looking for a 3.0l non-turbo Hilux. I
test drove my nephews and it really wasn't powerful enough particularly on hills. I then
test drove a 2004 TD at a car yard and it was great. I ended up buying one. It is a superb vehicle with only one drawback. It is not too economical on fuel. With canopy and gear it weighs around 2500 Kg and at 100km/h I get about 13 l/100km. In a strong head wind that can change to high 14 l/100km. If I am on an outback road driving at 70 - 80 km/h (or on bitumen at 90km/h) then it is not too bad - about 12 l/100km which gives me 600 plus kms per tank.
My hilux has done 176000km, a lot of which is on dirt or gravel roads and I haven't had any trouble with it.
The conclusion from the above drivel is to get a 4wd with a turbo if you can possibly afford to and if you can't, then how many hills do you really have to drive up?
Regards,
Bob
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Reply By: south_maw - Tuesday, Feb 22, 2011 at 18:36
Tuesday, Feb 22, 2011 at 18:36
Thanks for all the info guys. A lot of which i never concidered. Unsure of which way to go. I would prefer a duel cab ute, but the likes of the turbo diesel navaras are out of my price range. And a patrol or cruiser would be to thursty on fuel for aprentice wages haha. Any thoughts?
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Follow Up By: south_maw - Tuesday, Feb 22, 2011 at 18:37
Tuesday, Feb 22, 2011 at 18:37
And i live in the hills, so there are many hills daily which i will need to tackle
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Follow Up By: Member - Tanka (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 22, 2011 at 19:58
Tuesday, Feb 22, 2011 at 19:58
Look around at the various petrol powered dual cabs then. Generally they are quite a bit cheaper than the diesels so you should be able to get into something a bit newer for your budget. Then you could think about LPG.
Cheers Tanka.
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Follow Up By: get outmore - Wednesday, Feb 23, 2011 at 00:22
Wednesday, Feb 23, 2011 at 00:22
we had 05 tritons as work vehicles, as much as i wanted to hate them i couldnt
yea they would benifit greatlly from aftermarket 2 inch
suspension, but they were solid critters running the tried and true 2.8 TD
everything about them is solid, one of the geos put one into the bush and a fair speed and it didnt suffer a scratch despite taking down numerous bushes
power was adequate if your not prepared to spend up on a modern CRD TD
I did the
Perth to
Nullagine treck in them a few times and you dont need to push them along
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Reply By: south_maw - Wednesday, Feb 23, 2011 at 18:44
Wednesday, Feb 23, 2011 at 18:44
Thanks for the info 'get outmore' and 'tanka'. It Has given me another path. The tritons seem to be good for towing camper trailers and general driving etc as i have researched. Has anyone had any experience with chipping either the hilux or triton engines? Is it worth it in the long run? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks
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