How do you reduce the fuel on an old 40 series H Motor?
Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:57
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Member - Tour Boy ( Bundy QLD)
Hi Guys,
I know they are getting on a bit but someone might know. How do you reduce the amount of fuel to the engine on an old H motor. Would I be better adjusting the timing? How do I do that?. The thing blows black smoke from idle right thru the rev range. It starts first kick after sitting for months so I doubt it is compression related. I have read that on these motors you have to reduce the fuel as they get older, it's just they didn't explain how to do it. Pics would be awsome.
Reply By: mike39 - Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:24
Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:24
Dave.
Its not difficult, but you require the right tool.
On the back end of the injection pump there is a round locknut with a screw thread protruding out with a hex on the end. The locknut has 3 holes in the face and this is where the special tool is used to undo
the nut then you can turn the centre screw out to reduce.
There is also a stud on the front timing case where you can inspect the static timing mark (from recollection should be 11* btdc.)
I made up a tool years ago when I had a 2h (same pump). to make the very adjustment you require.
You may be able to get one from Toyota.
Hope this of some help.
mike
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Follow Up By: Member - Tour Boy ( Bundy QLD) - Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 13:34
Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 13:34
Thanks for that.
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Follow Up By: Ozhumvee - Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 17:23
Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 17:23
Maaaaate gues who's got a tool you can have ;-))))
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Follow Up By: Member - Tour Boy ( Bundy QLD) - Thursday, Feb 17, 2011 at 09:16
Thursday, Feb 17, 2011 at 09:16
Ummmm, Julia Gillard...she is and has many tools...:-)
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Follow Up By: Ozhumvee - Thursday, Feb 17, 2011 at 09:52
Thursday, Feb 17, 2011 at 09:52
Do you want me to post it up?
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Follow Up By: Member - Tour Boy ( Bundy QLD) - Thursday, Feb 17, 2011 at 11:03
Thursday, Feb 17, 2011 at 11:03
That would be awsome if you could. Thanks Peter
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Reply By: Ruffy-Dan - Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:39
Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:39
Hey Tour boy,
Before you go adjusting your fuel
check the EDIC motor position. There is an eletric motor bolted under the inlet manifold with a rod going to a lever on the injector pump. When running the little lever should be in it's central position, on start pulled back towards the EDIC motor and off, pushed forward. It's not at all uncommon for the motors to wear and stick in the 'start' position which richens the fuel mixture and thus blows black smoke.
If the EDIC is working correctly the you can adjust the fuel via the afore mentioned method, although a good pair of vice grips will work
well enough on the lock nut. Done it plenty of times.
I'd be questioning why you would need to adjust it though. if you're injectors are in poor condition you will blow black smoke through poor combustion, like wise with a worn injector pump. Timing shouldn't ever need adjusting unless something is worn or altered.
Good luck,
Dan
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Follow Up By: Member - Tour Boy ( Bundy QLD) - Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 13:38
Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 13:38
Hi Dan,
I haven'e got the vehicle
home yet but I think the EDIC must have been disconected years ago as it has a cable stop.
It has been a
farm paddock truck for 15 years so I think that the automatic timer springs may be weak so a reduction in fuel will help at lower rpm. I will be pulling the injectors out and servicing the nozzles. I doubt that it will see the road again so I'm not worried about it being perfect just not choking me.
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Reply By: Member - Matt L (WA) - Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 16:52
Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 16:52
Is it running rough? if it is the diaphragm at
the governor end has a hole in it and that will give you full fuel all the time . Not a fun job, only ever seen three vehicles with that problem in god knows how many years.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tour Boy ( Bundy QLD) - Thursday, Feb 17, 2011 at 09:20
Thursday, Feb 17, 2011 at 09:20
It is a bit grumpy when cold but the fuel would be a year or more old and the glow plugs haven't been changed in at least the last 15 yrs either, so I'm surprised it started first kick. I have a spare pump that I'll pull down to see how it goes together before I look at the other one. Thanks
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