Engel Upright Fridge

Hi all,
Looking to upgrade our 3 way fridge, and have come across an Engel 'Upright' fridge, SR90F at what seems a good price.
These have a Sawafuji swing motor.
I would like an Engel, (the MT45 portable I have used before) Are these upright fridges as good quality as the portable?
What about the 'swing motor' ?
Any comments, good or bad?

Thanks in advance
Cheers.




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Reply By: Shaker - Tuesday, Oct 19, 2010 at 13:02

Tuesday, Oct 19, 2010 at 13:02
All Engels have the swing motor, the upright is a good fridge, but remember every time you open the door, you will lose all the cold air.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Tuesday, Oct 19, 2010 at 13:03

Tuesday, Oct 19, 2010 at 13:03
Before somebody jumps in, all Engels have the swing motor, other than the thermo electric cooler/warmers.
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Follow Up By: CruisinDub - Tuesday, Oct 19, 2010 at 13:21

Tuesday, Oct 19, 2010 at 13:21
Hi Shaker,
Thanks for fast reply.
Much appreciated.
Having the 'inefficent' 3 way, and an old one at that, we know about conserving the Cold!
Cheers.
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Reply By: Member - mazcan - Tuesday, Oct 19, 2010 at 13:09

Tuesday, Oct 19, 2010 at 13:09
hi cruisindub
had an old 29lt engel that never missed a beat andit travelled over some of the worst rds now have 40lt 3yrs old
the swing motor they use are faultless from my long term experience
so would'nt hesitate to by an upright
cheers
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Follow Up By: CruisinDub - Tuesday, Oct 19, 2010 at 13:23

Tuesday, Oct 19, 2010 at 13:23
Hi Mazcan,
Thanks for fast reply.
Much appreciated.
Hope the new ones are as reliable as the oldies!
Cheers.
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Follow Up By: Member - mazcan - Tuesday, Oct 19, 2010 at 14:01

Tuesday, Oct 19, 2010 at 14:01
hi crusin
i have no reservations whatso ever about engel reliabilty
cheers
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Reply By: Member - Carl- Tuesday, Oct 19, 2010 at 13:53

Tuesday, Oct 19, 2010 at 13:53
Hi,

I see that Kedron caravans now install a Engel fridge as standard. I have the Vitrofridgo and that is fantastic but Kedron say the new Engel is even better. So that is good enough for me.
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Follow Up By: CruisinDub - Tuesday, Oct 19, 2010 at 14:15

Tuesday, Oct 19, 2010 at 14:15
Hi Carl,
Thanks for reply.
I know the Vitrifrigo also, (we have one in the boat I work on, 24v sadly I cant borrow this one from work), so if the Engel is better, hopefully I can get the good price there also.
Cheers.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, Oct 19, 2010 at 15:18

Tuesday, Oct 19, 2010 at 15:18
You might just want to be sure about how much noise it makes (given that most engels are noisier than Danfoss compressors). I'm assuming it will be in a van, and you'll be sleeping nearby.
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Follow Up By: CruisinDub - Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 04:49

Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 04:49
Hi Phil,

Thanks for your reply, yes, its in our van. Our VW Camper van, (homemade camper interior) we literally almost sleep on top of the fridge.
I had considered the noise of the compressor, though was of the impression that should the temp drop at night time the fridge wont be wokring so hard and coming on as often.
Are they really that noisy?
Thanks
Cheers.
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Follow Up By: get outmore - Monday, Oct 25, 2010 at 12:37

Monday, Oct 25, 2010 at 12:37
there not that noisy

BUT any noise in an otherwise quite environment can disturb some people

we would sit out bush enjoying the silence, suddenly youd think you could hearthe sound of a distant vehicle before realizing the fridge had kicked in

think a softly ticking clock while your trying too sleep

The danfoss compressors can make a fair racket at times the noise my exes waeco was disturbing, sounded like someone heavy breathing outside the window
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Reply By: Member - Tezza Qld - Tuesday, Oct 19, 2010 at 15:48

Tuesday, Oct 19, 2010 at 15:48
Hi
Mate has the upright Engel in his Trayon slide-on camper. It was a standard fittment if you didn't want a three way. Great fridge but a little on the noisy side in such a small area and it is beside the bed.

Cheers Teza
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Follow Up By: Racey - Tuesday, Oct 19, 2010 at 16:26

Tuesday, Oct 19, 2010 at 16:26
In our van, we have a waeco upright with a danfoss compressor and it is very quiet. We have been over rough roads in hot weather and it hasn't missed abeat.

Cheers
Racey
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Follow Up By: CruisinDub - Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 04:54

Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 04:54
Hi Teza and Racey,

Thanks for both your replies.
I cant find any documentation that relates to noise levels.
I asked above when this was mentioned also, ..... are they really that noisy?
We dont require absolute silence to sleep.
Good point to make note of though, thanks.

Cheers.
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Reply By: Roach"ee" - Tuesday, Oct 19, 2010 at 20:20

Tuesday, Oct 19, 2010 at 20:20
I replaced the 3 way fridge in our Ultimate Camper trailer with an Engel upright about 3 or 4 years ago.

Best thing I ever did to the camper trailer!!!!

However, I did add a 2nd battery to the camper as well.

For our style of travelling (rough tracks and on the road virtually every day), the 3 way just didn't cut the mustard.

Roachie
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Follow Up By: CruisinDub - Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 05:00

Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 05:00
Hi Roach"ee"

Thanks for the reply.
I will run it direct off a 100Ah, gel battery (homemade camper interior in VW van) so hopefully the voltage drop allowance is ok. (dual charge relay)
Will be almost everyday travelling, not stopping any more than 1 day without driving at some point.
Finally looking forward to cold beers and chilled wine.
Thanks
Cheers.

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Reply By: Motherhen - Tuesday, Oct 19, 2010 at 20:35

Tuesday, Oct 19, 2010 at 20:35
Hi CruisinDub

We put an Engel upright in our camper a few years ago as it had an old three-way. Ours was probably about 110 or 120 litres - you can't get that model now (or couldn't last time i looked). It fitted perfectly into gap from the old fridge. It ran well on either 12 or 240, and automatically switched to 240 when the van was plugged into mains power. It was not as silent as our present Vitrifrigo, so i often turned it off at bed time (on cool nights which they were travelling inland) and it maintained the stuff in the small internal freezer box. We were very happy with it, and ran it from one battery charged from a portable 80 w solar panel put out when we stopped.

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Follow Up By: disco driver - Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 01:39

Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 01:39
The only time I hear the upright Engel in my van is when my missus is not talking, (not that often),or when she is not snoring. (I hope she doesn't read that or I'm dead meat)

Seriously
Like everything else, you soon get used to the fridge noise and it wont bother you at night, but the unusual silence will wake you up if it stops working.

Cheers and cold beers,
Disco
(who has a hearing problem anyway, it's called selective deafness and most men of my age suffer from it.)
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 01:52

Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 01:52
Hi Disco

You're a game man saying that.

Selective hearing - men don't suffer from it; it is a skill they have perfected after years of marriage :O

Really, we do get used to sounds. I couldn't tell you whether the fridges are running in my kitchen at home which i think is very quiet, and the fridges buzzing is compounded by aquarium pumps, sometimes the dishwasher and the breadmaker. A few days ago the power went off - the sudden silence was deafening!

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Follow Up By: CruisinDub - Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 05:04

Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 05:04
Hi Motherhen and Disco driver,
Thanks for your replies, appreciated.
The engel upright will fit exactly in the space that the old 3 way will be replaced with.
I figure also, cooler nights, the fridge wont run that often through the night. On the coollest nights, we could turn it off if possible to also save battery juice.
Cold beers/chilled wine at the end of the day versus the 3 way and I am almost sold.
Thanks
Cheers.
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Reply By: Member - Keith P (NSW) - Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 13:07

Wednesday, Oct 20, 2010 at 13:07
I replaced the 3-way in our Cub camper a cuppla years back...and it was a good move. Worked heaps better than the 3-way....got down to proper temps about 10 times faster...and stayed there.
Used bugger-all power ....about 3 amps from memory...and the battery in camper lasted about 4 days without a charge...as well as powering the 2 low power camp lights as well.
We got an offer trade-in we couldnt refuse on our camper...minus fridge of course. So I still have it ...and our new camper has a bigger fridge ...so am using it as a shed fridge. But it is really too small for that ...so it is on the market.
Oh ...it is an Engel upright...same as the one your looking at....and I didnt notice any noise issues with it at all.

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Follow Up By: CruisinDub - Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 04:08

Thursday, Oct 21, 2010 at 04:08
Hi Keith,

Thanks for your reply, much appreciated.
Contrary toi what I wrote on the thread question, I have noticed that the model that is for sale is the 'E' model and the old specs sheet for it from the Engel website, state use of 3.3Amp and 38Decibels, as opposed to the new 'F' models of Engels that draw 2.5 amps and are 32Db.
I dont think the extra amp draw and the noise level will be noticeable, I appreciate the figures you have presented in yoru reply.
Just out of interest, whats the asking price of your engel upright? Is it holding its price?
The one I am looking at is old stock, not sold.
Hopefully I wont notice the old model being a power draw or noise difference.
The 3 way was quiet, but couldnt run it on my battery for anything for more than an hour or so!

Thanks
Cheers.
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Reply By: xwildgt - Sunday, Oct 24, 2010 at 20:09

Sunday, Oct 24, 2010 at 20:09
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Follow Up By: xwildgt - Sunday, Oct 24, 2010 at 20:10

Sunday, Oct 24, 2010 at 20:10
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Follow Up By: CruisinDub - Monday, Oct 25, 2010 at 13:46

Monday, Oct 25, 2010 at 13:46
Hi,
Thanks for your reply.
I bought the fridge and cant wait to try it out.
Should arrive tomorrow, plan to plug it in straight away and test to see how long it will take to cool down the 'essentials'.
Cheers.
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Follow Up By: CruisinDub - Thursday, Nov 04, 2010 at 20:44

Thursday, Nov 04, 2010 at 20:44
Hi xwildgt,

Following thread, #82277

I purchased thefridge and eagerly awaited its arrival.
Please read the thread mentioned above for my next issue.

This is a SR90'E'-G3, sticker on back clearly states, made in Malaysia. Which model is yours? I presume the latest 'F' model

I have a question for you.

I know the 'F' states a lower Db nopise level and just slightly lower power consumption, but we have tested the fridge in 240v only so far. I was after a comparision to yours......

On setting 5, the freezer got down to minus 17 deg C, within 4 hrs, which i thought was very Good. (we didnt have second thermostat at the time to check fridge)

I adjusted the setting to '3' and overnight check in the morning the fridge was only at 7deg C with freezer only minus 1 temp.

I thought this was 'not so good.'

With a setting of '2', the freezer did not get below zero and the fridge was above 10deg C.

We unpacked it inside the salon and with ambiant temperature of steady 23-24 deg c, (climate controlled room) it seemed to struggle a bit with the compressor running to what I considered a majority of the time.

How do you have yours set?

I thought a mid range setting of '3' would have been perfect, but it looks like a higher setting to keep a good cold temp.

Could you also post a picture of the interior of your freezer for comparision.
I would like to look at whether you have these screw threads coming down inside.

Look forward to heearing from you,

Thanks
Regards Paul
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Follow Up By: xwildgt - Saturday, Nov 06, 2010 at 09:49

Saturday, Nov 06, 2010 at 09:49
Paul yes mine is the SR 90F model i usually crank it up at home and get it the freezer iced up then i turn it down to 3 - 4 when its a hot day not a problem i think mine was made in Japan have to check
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Follow Up By: CruisinDub - Sunday, Nov 07, 2010 at 23:43

Sunday, Nov 07, 2010 at 23:43
Hi Mate,

Hope this finds you well.

Any chance of a picture or two of the interior of the freezer?

Would appreciate it.

Thanks
Regards Paul
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