wire guage
Submitted: Wednesday, Jul 14, 2010 at 19:31
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Member - troy s (WA)
I got some cable for the batery setup, it's used and just in a 5mtr roll. i was told it was 6 B&S, not being to sparky I'm not certain. Looking for some fuse holders I gotta make sure I get the right holders for the size cable.
Measuring the cross section, ie diameter if i remember right it measures about 6-6.5mm, depending on the deformity as i cut the cable.
Looking on a chart i found it tells me I've got 2 B&S (6.543 dia)
So what is right? or have I completley got it all wrong?
Here's the chart, is this all ridgey didge?l
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/wire-gauges-d_419.html
cheers again Troy
Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, Jul 14, 2010 at 19:46
Wednesday, Jul 14, 2010 at 19:46
If its 6 B & S its 6 gauge and you will need fuses like used in car stereo 5AG
Look here www.jaycar.com.au page170
Fuses on P 64 and holders on P 420
I have 6 B&S from car to van and it just fits in a 50 amp Anderson plug.
2 B & S is huge and costs $14.50 a metre
According to Jaycar 2G has a total dia of 12mm 6G 10mm 8G 6.5mm Outside dia including the insulation.
Take it to a sparky and ask would be the safest way.
The wire between the batteries on a 100ser Cruiser is either 2 or 3G so that may help
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Reply By: Joe n Mel - Wednesday, Jul 14, 2010 at 19:47
Wednesday, Jul 14, 2010 at 19:47
Hey dude....... i would cut off a small bit, say 2 inch's and take it down to a auto sparky
shop and get ya fuse to match the cable size, he will ask you what it is for and what ya expect the fuse to do and handle so get that info sorted first.....
The link it's self dont work but not hard to work out but will not mean a great deal to most reading it as you have not fully explained what it is for and just a tad more details will help for answers, there is a HEAP of info of all sorts and far to much detail for the average bloke like me to understand and get around, best ya head down but again get some more info for the sparky dudes..
Cheers mate
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, Jul 14, 2010 at 21:40
Wednesday, Jul 14, 2010 at 21:40
The link works if you copy and paste the whole line.
It doesnt really tell you all that much.
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Reply By: Member - troy s (WA) - Wednesday, Jul 14, 2010 at 20:00
Wednesday, Jul 14, 2010 at 20:00
Cheers fellas,
Just chopped a bit off, so may take this for a drive tomorrow, the local shops had bugger-all, and without knowing the cable size wasn't about to order anything in.
Now I keep thinking there is a bit of liqurice sitting on my desk :)
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Reply By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Wednesday, Jul 14, 2010 at 21:43
Wednesday, Jul 14, 2010 at 21:43
Count the number of strands in the cable...if around 455 (at 0.30mm dia) then it'll be 2B&S. If it has around 189 strands (.30mm dia each) then it'll be 6B&S......may depend on the cable type/flexability though.
Hope that helps.
Andrew
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, Jul 14, 2010 at 22:08
Wednesday, Jul 14, 2010 at 22:08
Here is a
pic of the wire sizes
The left 2 are 6 B&S the small one is 8 B&S and the r/h one is 3 B&S
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Follow Up By: Member - troy s (WA) - Friday, Jul 16, 2010 at 09:03
Friday, Jul 16, 2010 at 09:03
Thanks for the effoert there Graham!
My cable looks the same size as the first 2, so I'm guessing it's 6 B&S as told to me. Got the day off today so hope to go battery shopping and finish getting all the little bits and pieces.
Cheers again
Troy
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Friday, Jul 16, 2010 at 09:29
Friday, Jul 16, 2010 at 09:29
You can buy resettable fuses for this size wire Probably Snoopercheep or Autobarn would sell them I bought some in WA were $26 each
Here are two pics 1st one is a resettable one and second is just a normal 5 AG fuse These are normally used in high quality car stereos
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Are available in 30amp as
well I think
Sorry about the focus hands a bit shaky this morning LOL
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These are about $8 each plus the fuse $3
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Reply By: pdm3006 - Wednesday, Jul 14, 2010 at 23:18
Wednesday, Jul 14, 2010 at 23:18
Easiest way to tell is measure the thickness of a strand of copper with a good vernier, and count how many strands there are.
Cable cross section area is easy to compute using a spreadsheet. Remember the area of a circle (as the cross section of each strand will be) is pi * r squared. Multiple the area of one strand by the number of strands.
Or go to
http://redarc.com.au/products-and-services/sbi-series-dual-battery-isolator/cable-size-and-voltage-drop-calculators
And enter the details into "Set Cable size from strands". You can compare what you have against 6B&S on the same page.
Enjoy !
Peter.
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Reply By: Mike DiD - Friday, Jul 16, 2010 at 20:16
Friday, Jul 16, 2010 at 20:16
If the diameter of stranded copper is 6.5mm, then you have 4 gauge cable.
This has a current rating of at least 105 amps so you can use any fuse or circuit breaker smaller than 105 amps close to the battery.
However if there are smaller cables connected in this run that are smaller than 6mm diameter, that do not have their own fuse at the connection with this cable, then you need to use a fuse smaller than the current rating of the thinnest cable.
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Follow Up By: Member - troy s (WA) - Friday, Jul 16, 2010 at 20:29
Friday, Jul 16, 2010 at 20:29
Thanks Mike, good points there I wasn't too sure on.
Was thinking of running a heavy lead to the back, then individual leads and there own fuses off that.
Does using a smaller fuse limit the current flow at all? I mean I'm using the biggest cable to a point, does shoving in a small fuse then counter-act this at all?
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Follow Up By: Mike DiD - Friday, Jul 16, 2010 at 20:37
Friday, Jul 16, 2010 at 20:37
If you want fire protection, you have no choice but to make the fuse less than the current rating of the thinnest wire fed by it.
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Follow Up By: Member - troy s (WA) - Friday, Jul 16, 2010 at 20:42
Friday, Jul 16, 2010 at 20:42
yeah
well understood, just thinking outloud
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