Friday, Jun 18, 2010 at 23:25
PLEASE STOP AND READ!
Hello all, my name is Danielle Oertel. I would like to start with being very clear that I am responding via my dad's account after he alerted me to this thread tonight. In this thread I will attempt to clear up any misconceptions being discussed and provide you all with the current advice that I have provided to Phil this week (he's waiting for my parcel). I am providing this advice personally and not as a representative of DERM but I will need to draw upon my knowledge as the Customer Service Coordinator for the Dept of Environment & Resource Management (DERM) offices in
Cairns,
Atherton and
Mareeba. Please excuse me if my reply sound "governmenty", it's difficult not to as it is my own personal experience.
Just some background information first...with the last Queensland State Election the department of Natural Resources & Water (NRW) and the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) including QPWS were integrated, this occur in March 2009. In December 2009, the
Cairns NRW Customer Service Centre (level 3) and the EPA/QPWS Reef n Rainforest
Information Centre (previously located on the ground flr) at 5 b Sheridan Street,
Cairns, integrated to form the first fully integrated DERM Customer Service Centre in Queensland. This presented some extreme challenges for my team as we have and are still learning a whole government agencies business. In May 2010 the
Atherton office transitioned across as an integrated centre also and delivers QPWS & Environmental
Services products &
services amongst many other
services such as camping bookings, wildlife enquiries, etc.
Now onto the issue at hand...the
CREB Track &
Roaring Meg Falls...it is my understanding that yes,
Cairns Regional Council are the governing authority to contact in relation to access to the
CREB track, I believe this has only changed quite recently and was surprised myself to find out this information. I contacted CRC to confirm this. I was advised, that the track was having some final work completed and that it was expected to reopen in about 2 weeks. Correct me if I'm wrong Phil this is from memory, is this the information that I provided to you along with the contact phone number of 40443044?
Roaring Meg Falls camping area is located within a
Timber Reserve therefore a Permit to
Camp is required from DERM. These permits can be obtained from the
Cairns &
Atherton offices, please contact 131304 and ask to be transferred to the
Atherton Mabel Street office. Once the permit has been completed it can be...
faxed (I'll post this next week),
posted PO Box 210,
Atherton Q 4883
or emailed customerservicecentreatherton@derm.qld.gov.au
or in person at 25 Mabel Street,
Atherton for processing. These instructions are on the application form. A permit will be issued and forwarded back to you with the contact details to for you to apply for permission to TRAVERSE the traditional land owners property (
Wujal Wujal).
PLEASE NOTE Faye is NOT the contact for these permits any longer. ALL permits in relation to
Bush Camping at
Roaring Meg Falls will be processed in the
Atherton office only, regardless of whether you visit the
Cairns Business Centre or the QPWS office in
Mossman.
I will, on Monday seek advice about the number of
camp sites available at
Roaring Meg Falls, as there are restrictions and any further information that passes my way and will post this ASAP.
If anyone is travelling to
Cape York please be aware of alcohol restrictions, this is best googled and be CROC aware.
I ask for you patience when contacting any of the offices as my team is still in training, we are only human after all. Thanks for your time and I hope this has cleared up a your questions.
Happy Travelling
Cheers
Danielle
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony (ACT) - Saturday, Jun 19, 2010 at 07:18
Saturday, Jun 19, 2010 at 07:18
Wonderfull information. Thanks very much.
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Saturday, Jun 19, 2010 at 07:29
Saturday, Jun 19, 2010 at 07:29
Thanks for ALL your help Daniel.
Poor Fay. She must be tearing her hair out by now. First she isn't and then she is and now she isn't. I started this thread this week before talking to you. I only had to wait one more phone call. I hope all is
well at the workplace.
Thanks to your Dad also.
Cheers and have a good weekend.
Phil
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Saturday, Jun 19, 2010 at 07:32
Saturday, Jun 19, 2010 at 07:32
Thanks Danielle for the information, may make for a couple less phone calls for all concerned :)
Andrew
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Saturday, Jun 19, 2010 at 08:03
Saturday, Jun 19, 2010 at 08:03
Danielle
To answer your question:
Yes you are correct. Excellent information. Good post. Thanks.
Is it too premature to get the data on EO brought up to date with what you told me?
Phil
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Follow Up By: Member - Salt grinder - Saturday, Jun 19, 2010 at 23:58
Saturday, Jun 19, 2010 at 23:58
I have just returned to
Sydney today after 4 weeks up on the Cape . . . . top to bottom. A great trip and we had access to all roads except some noted as "Private".
To complete the trip we had planned to finish on the
CREB track and spent an hour at
Laura phoning and checking the above authorities at
Cairns and
Atherton (amongst others) who gave us the same precise information applicable at that time ie. 10/6/2010.
10/6/2010 Quote: "The
CREB track is closed due to recent wet weather and severe road conditions. We do not at this time anticipate the track being opened until late June at the earliest".
Hope this is of some assistance
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 09:01
Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 09:01
Thanks Salty. That agrees with what Danielle said above.
She seems to be the one in the know. Luckily we found her.
Did you per chance go on the track from the Lakefield direct to Port Steward. Not up the Development Road?
You can send your response via email if you wish to vk1dx@bigpond.net.au.
We do want to get off topic do we.
Phil
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Follow Up By: Member - Salt grinder - Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:23
Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:23
Phil my maps don't show any access track direct from Lakefield NP to Port StewarT. Just a private track part way up to Lily Vale /
Running Creek which we didn't access.
We did Port Stewart from the PDR.
I prefer to keep EO threads within the system for all to see and comment unless it's strictly private. If you like to change topics start a new thread . . . get best results that way. Thanks anyhow.
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Follow Up By: Member - Salt grinder - Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:30
Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:30
Just decided to
check Running Creek on the EO map and I can see the track there to which you were referring.
Ahhh
well . . . . . . will just have to go back and do that one now.
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:35
Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:35
The track through Lily Vale is the one. It shows up on several of
mine. It actually goes all the way through to the Port Stewart road. Albeit through some swampy looking terrain. We have permission to go that way from the owners and local indigenous group. Looks a bit of a challenge but then the cars are set up for it. I have sent them an email to get the latest and will contact them again just before we leave
Cooktown. But forwarned is forearmed.
I tried a thread a few months back without any luck. Thats why I asked.
Good to see you had a good time.
It did not have to be private. Just offered in case you would have preferred to leave the thread alone. Thats all.
Have a good day.
Phil
Just got the email that you can see the track. Bit "what-if" hey!!!
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Follow Up By: Member - Salt grinder - Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 11:21
Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 11:21
Phil, as a matter of interest, what maps are you using for the trip and your planning ??
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 12:46
Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 12:46
The Hema
Cape York and Nat map 250K Zone 54 maps for that area. Whatever Ozi comes up with at the moment.
Just setting up waypoints with hints and directions. The type of stuff you may forget. The route from Cookwtown to the OTL is a such it and see plan as you go thing. Because of all the recent road closures. We have two priorities for the
Cape melville - Port Stewart area. Pandanus Vet park and
Cape Melville. The res!!! We shall see.
Why do you ask? Got anything we could use? I am new to Oziexplorer.
Phil
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Follow Up By: Glenndini - Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 23:03
Sunday, Jun 20, 2010 at 23:03
Phil,
Can I ask from where you have obtained permission to travel on the track through Lilyvale from Lakefield to Port Stewart? I have been through the same "round and round" trying to find info on this track and had actually given up.
If you can point me in the right direction I might be able to put it back on our itinerary.
cheers
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Monday, Jun 21, 2010 at 08:32
Monday, Jun 21, 2010 at 08:32
Please sent me an email to: vk1dx@bigpond.net.au.
There are some private issues about our trip that do really need to be publicised. Nothing illegal etc. Just family based.
Phil
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