The 4x4 Shop Melbourne

Submitted: Wednesday, Jun 02, 2010 at 19:36
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Just a quick note to let members know that the 4x4 shop in Somerville Victoria which is run by Steve Hobbs is no longer open and I suspect has gone into liquidation. The website "4h.com.au" is still active but DO NOT order anything as your money will be taken and no goods forthcoming. I have been taken for $1,440 for a winch I have not received. The shop number is disconnected and no e-mails are being answered, so avoid this web site at all cost.
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Reply By: Muntoo - Wednesday, Jun 02, 2010 at 20:47

Wednesday, Jun 02, 2010 at 20:47
At his prices i dunno how he could go broke. There is plent of others in the same boat as you too mate, not good.

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Reply By: montana - Wednesday, Jun 02, 2010 at 20:48

Wednesday, Jun 02, 2010 at 20:48
i have his mobile number if you contact me by email would rather not post it on here but willl give it to anyone who asks :)
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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Wednesday, Jun 02, 2010 at 21:00

Wednesday, Jun 02, 2010 at 21:00
How did you pay for your winch?
If its by credit card you can dispute the transaction with your card provider and they will reverse the transaction.

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Follow Up By: montana - Wednesday, Jun 02, 2010 at 21:25

Wednesday, Jun 02, 2010 at 21:25
just done asearch and found this,wonder how his cliffhanger comp is going to happen next month.

St George bank has stopped the merchant facility and frozen our bank account due to their view that our charge backs of late is in excess. They are investigating, and this has been in process for a few weeks now. This has effectively closed down the store as we cannot order stock or issue refunds.

This has of course made it worse as everyone is now asking their credit card company to cancel their transaction.

Please do not leave us a message but call Leanne from St George on 08 8424 7074 for further information.



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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Wednesday, Jun 02, 2010 at 21:36

Wednesday, Jun 02, 2010 at 21:36
Well thats still a problem for the bank/card provider as they can fight it out with Visa or Mastercard and the respective merchants bank.

Dispute the transaction with your card provider and let it run its course.

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Follow Up By: Effie C (NT) - Wednesday, Jun 02, 2010 at 22:45

Wednesday, Jun 02, 2010 at 22:45
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this is a different 4x4 shop to the one you have posted up, it is in Qld and has been out of business for quite some time. 4h-The 4wd Shop is in Victoria. It would appear that he no longer has any listings on EBay either :((
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Reply By: Fr - Friday, Jun 04, 2010 at 20:42

Friday, Jun 04, 2010 at 20:42
I have lodged a Transaction Dispute claim with VISA. I am also in the process of obtaining all company and directorship details including all other associated business that they have, and will lodge VCAT applications to obtain a judgement against them, as well as reporting them to the Credit association. At the very least it will make their personal life and their other business ventures very difficult to obtain any loans, bills etc in the future, a bad credit report will follow them around for the next 15 years.
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Follow Up By: montana - Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 16:33

Saturday, Jun 05, 2010 at 16:33
sorry about the above post being wrong,had been sent a few between mates and posted the wrong one.this was posted eslewhere earlier today.


The news is not good. Angella P/L T/As The 4WD Shop (4H) voluntarily appointed Vince & Associates as Liquidators. We have not traded in the past few weeks and were not in a position to trade, pay, refund or comment while such discussions were being held.

Before GFC we were rocking. GFC hit and it wasn't so much people not spending at the time but the USD falling to 50c that drove prices through the roof (look at Hi mounts - we sold 15 a month and then 1 per 3 months) and it was the price hikes that killed sales by a half. Then in Sep last year ebay changed it's search criteria to best match and that halved our sales yet again. We resized - smaller factory and dropped some good staff saving $25K per month and had been making good progress. But some 2 weeks ago we were suspended by ebay due to lower star ratings and that pretty much screwed us. The boys resigned and immediatley upon returning from OBC (we left early) I made the first appointment with the liquidators and reported that I was no longer able to pay my bills. It's against the law to trade in this predicament.

To set the record straight I have nothing to do with 4x4store or with Johnno in cranbourne. Stuf4blokes was an attempt by my sales guys to get some sales happening while I was away. They did a good job, they only listed product we had in stock and every sale was honoured. I withdrew all active listings in that store when the liquidators said I shouldn't continue trading. So that store is now inactive but by choice.

Also, I have heard rumours that Cliffhanger is off - This is a rediculous claim. Cliffhanger is on more than ever (it's my only job right now) and in fact we are considering having a second cliffhanger for 2011 in Sep/Oct and have already begun talks with CCDA and our major sponsors.

So where to from here? Everything is in the hands of the liquidators and no amount of begging or harrassement can change anything I'm afraid. Please remember that it is the business entity that is being wound up at this stage and not the person Steve Hobbs yet. I do have things like an old comp car and yes these are being sold to go towards debt relief but not by the liquidators as they are only engaged in the business assets.

There are not that many customers affected. What I suggest is that if you paid with Pay pal or via Credit Card then you seek refunds through their buyer guarantees straight away. If you can not then please send me a PM and I will make sure the liquidators are aware that you were not capable of getting a refund. No guarantees but it's the best I can offer right now.

Ebay have caused me a huge amount of grief of late. My advice to ebay buyers and sellers is to watch those star ratings - they can put sellers out of business. I'm sure that even the angriest customers wouldn't want to delibereatly bring this on and cause so much pain for so many innocent people.

For every supplier and customer affected by this there is a hard lump in my throat and a great deal of regret and remorse. Given that I know a lot of people and my business life and social life blend together I am finding this very hard to come to terms with. Many of my suppliers and customers are my friends (or were).

The Liquidators are :
Vince & Associates
email : kwright@vinceassociates.com.au
Ph : 03 9793 5588
They know me as Angella P/L.

Regretfully,

Hobzee


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