diesel question.

thanks dave exactly what i wanted to know. can you give me a rough indication of a price? also the wife sometimes hears a high pitched noise... i cant hear it because of tinnitis. would this be the turbo operating? cheers

petengail

this model is very popular and very reliable and easy to install,cheers.

Boggard turbo timer

petengail

forgot to add....just tell them your make /model and they will send you one to suit.Boggard make them to install yourself by just unplugging/plugging in to your existing wiring by the way of plugs(no cutting wiring etc).very simple and easy,cheers.

Hi if the noise is under heavy acceleration then yes it would be, in relation to a price for a turbo timer, you will have to look into this yourself, as there are a huge range of different types and at different prices.
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Thanks
Dave

Giving it a few minutes at idle gives the turbo a chance to slow down


Hmmm when I went to school I was told it was to bring the turbo's temp back down just that couple a hundred degrees or so.
Anyway no matter they have all given you sound advice after woorking it hard even 30 secs running will bring the temp down. It is particularly important in non water cooled turbos. Vote 1 the turbo timer.

thank you all for your suggestions, i did have one more thought - i guess it dosent matter so much if i have just driven down to pick up the wife from work etc? 5 minute run, we are talking about as dio said prolonged high speeds or sustained pulling - not just normal running around... cheers and thanks

See below we posted at the same time :-)

I would ( and I am ) fitting a good after market temp gauge.

( Engine watchdog. )

If the engine is running hot then I will let it idle and cool down

I think it is better value for money.

Agree Doug you are on the money.

YEA!!!! :-)

( does little victory dance )

now can you tell my wife i was right about something once please ? :-) LOL

Okay, just so you have all the facts......

I used to own a Patrol with 4.2TD which used to get quite hot (coolant wise).

I won't bore you with a blow by blow of all the things I did, but a couple of them will be of interest to you (I hope).

I fitted (amongst other things), a Thermoguard EGT (exhaust gas temp) gauge with senders both before and after the turbo. I also fitted a reasonable quality coolant temp gauge (VDO) with the sensor in the top radiator hose.

After owning that vehicle for 6 years and having "studied at length" the various relationships between various components under the bonnet I can report as follows:

1) There is not necessarily any corrolation between coolant temps (as would effectively be measured by your proposed fitment of a TM2) and the temp of the turbo and/or exhaust gases. For example, if your vehicle's cooling system is in good condition, you could be flogging up a steep hill with a good load on and the coolant temp might not necessarily show ANY increase. However, the EGT gauge will quite easily rise from 350oC to 550oC in the space of 3 klicks; and that is perfectly normal and acceptable. On the other hand if the coolant system is blocked or has some other issue, it is possible to see the EGT gauge staying "normal" while the coolant temp could rise to 100oC (or above).

2) In 99.9% of situations, I noticed on the EGT gauge that even after having been driving for several hours at highway speeds (with say a EGT gauge reading of 550oC in the manifold or about 350oC in the dump pipe, below the turbo), that by the time I entered a town, slowed down to 60k/h for one of 2 klicks before pulling up for lunch or at a servo to get fuel (for example), the EGT gauge will have easily dropped to around 250oC (which is the temp at which I was happy to shut my engine down).

So, to conclude: by all means fit a TM2 (I have one on my Chev 6.5 V8 diesel's block). But, PLEASE don't automatically rely on it's reading to tell you what the turbo temp is. Secondly, I really don't think a turbo timer is necessary. As mentioned, in 99.9% of instances, even after a long highway drive with full load, the turbo will have cooled sufficiently by the time you pull up and want to stop. The only time I can think of that this wouldn't be the case is (for example) if you got pulled up by the cops (or because a kiddy was about to puke etc) right at the top of a large hill....your EGTs would be elavated above normal and it would be wise to allow the engine to cool down for a minute or so before shutting it off.

EGT gauge before turbo timer in my opinion.

I forgot to add the most important reminder to any first time diesel owner (and forgive me, but I am not trying to be a smart arze.....)......

Please do whatever you think may be necessary to prevent the accidental filling up of the rigs diesel fuel tank with UNLEADED!!! Believe me, it is the most common (and extremely costly) mistake that is made by people who have owned petrols all their lives. Force of habit; you drive into the servo and without even giving it a second thought, whack in 80 litres of a diesel injector pump's worst enemy!!!

A suggestion would be to place a red plastic tag on the filler cap with the word DIESEL. As I said...WHATEVER IS NECESSARY....JUST DO IT.

Just out of interest I re read the owners manual for the rodeo last night and there was no mention of any cool down period for the turbo under any conditions.

There are a lot of warnings and safety things included but no mention of a cool down period being required.

If I have done a long hot run I will let it idle before turning it off and I don't see a turbo timer doing any harm but I think on modern turbos they are not as necessary as on earlier versions.

Not correct, the ZD30 (even the Series II GU) dont run a high an EGT as 1HZ cruisers anyway, but the first ZDs that have gained notoriety dont need turbo timers.

Also Series II and CRD ZD30 have water cooled GT2052V turbochargers so they dont need them.

The Series III and Series IV ZD30s (also Series II with replacement S3+ turbos) with oil cooled GT2052Vs will benefit from a turbo timer.

G'day Bill,

I don't believe the actual turbo timer is illegal.....it is the act of leaving a vehicle running and not being at the controls which is illegal. If (for example) you wanted to fit a turbo timer just to be safe (in case you accidently turned the key to OFF when the turbo had just finished a particularly hard stint), then there would be no issue with that. It's just that you're SUPPOSED to sit in the vehicle until the engine stops idling.

BTW, most turbo timers I'm aware of actually have a over-ride button, so that in the event that you have just driven to the shops and want to stop and get out straight away (knowing that the turbo is only luke warm), then you can switch off at the key (engine will still be running), then press the OFF button on the turbo timer and engine will cut out immediately.

G'day Lex
From memory that is what my Hilux handbook said.