Sunday, Feb 28, 2010 at 23:56
Here is the reg as per QLD.
mine were removed for 14months
The engineer said when he went to the course about them he was told it meant
"for any time at all"
Temporary Removal of Seats:
Modifications to
vehiclesare regulated in Queensland to ensure those
vehiclesremain in a safe condition. The Transport Operations (Road Use Management - Vehicle Standards and Safety) Regulation 1999 requires modifications to be approved. Seating capacity changes are approved though the Approved Person scheme.
The main principal that needs to be addressed in scenarios that have arisen in relation to the removal of seats is whether the vehicle is actually modified or has just been reconfigured in accordance with the manufacturers various options. If seats are reconfigured, no modification occurs and approval is not required. The other factor is the length of time the seats will be removed.
Queensland Transport's policy in relation to this matter is as follows:
For
vehiclesfitted with quick release seating attachments as original equipment, temporary removal of the seats is acceptable. A Modification Plate does not need to be fitted. This is commonly the case for four wheel drives and people movers.
For
vehiclesfitted with bolt in seating structures, no approval by an Approved Person is necessary for the temporary removal of seats, provided the category of the vehicle does not change as a result of the seating reduction.
Vehicleswith the permanent removal of seating structures must be approved by an Approved Person and a Modification Plate must be fitted for the reduction in seating capacity. In this circumstance, any change in vehicle category must also be taken into consideration prior to the
fitting of the Modification Plate. The vehicle operator's insurance company and Queensland Transport should be advised of relative changes to the vehicle.
NOTE: For the purposes of this policy, "permanent" means the seats are removed for an
indefinite period or not expected to be refitted.
Queensland Transport will mutually recognise interstate drivers traveling in Queensland who comply with their own jurisdiction's requirements. These drivers are advised to carry some proof of this compliance.
At the time of a Safety Certificate inspection, the vehicle must be returned to the manufacturer's original condition or have a Modification Plate fitted for the seating configuration as presented.
The vehicle modifier/operator is responsible for ensuring that the safety of the vehicle is maintained and that all seats, when being re-installed, are re-installed in accordance with relevant standards and recognised automotive practice.
Please note that modifying a vehicle that adversely affects its safety, or driving or
parking an unsafe vehicle on a road are breaches of the Transport Operations (Road Use Management - Vehicle Standards and Safety) Regulation 1999.
Ana Halesworth
A/Asst Policy Officer
Policy Advice
Ph: 3253 4851
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew L (QLD) - Monday, Mar 01, 2010 at 13:06
Monday, Mar 01, 2010 at 13:06
"For vehicles fitted with bolt in seating structures, no approval by an Approved Person is necessary for the temporary removal of seats, provided the category of the vehicle does not change as a result of the seating reduction."
... how more explained can you get....and for many of us here, it is a temporary removal of a rear
seat. Common sense is in the directive, but not in some who read it.
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Follow Up By: Member - Don M (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 02, 2010 at 07:56
Tuesday, Mar 02, 2010 at 07:56
The way I read that ruling, especially with the follow up explanation is that, the removal of my seats are TEMPORARY and hence, no approval is required.
The seats are out for the duration of my trip around
the block and not indefinitely.
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Tuesday, Mar 02, 2010 at 09:19
Tuesday, Mar 02, 2010 at 09:19
When I rang Qld RTA the definition of Temporary was "For a few days but less than a week "
My trip of 13 months was considered indefinite hence the plates.
I really dont care if you do or dont Im just making you aware of what could be.
In my case I preferred to be safer and not sorry.
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