1HZ Injector Pump Tuning
Submitted: Friday, Jan 15, 2010 at 15:54
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pdm3006
Hi Everyone !
I recently put a
snorkel on the HZJ75RP - it's an Airflow S146D with a very large intake scoop on a naturally aspirated 1HZ which blows no smoke whatsoever.
Now the question.
I am thinking of screwing in (clockwise) the maximum load screw on the back of the injector pump 1/8 of a turn to hopefully increase power a bit.
My theory is with the
snorkel fitted and with the resultant extra air it should not run rich and more fuel should equal more power.
Anybody have any experience or advise on adjusting the maximum load screw ?
Many thanks in advance.
Peter.
Reply By: hazo - Friday, Jan 15, 2010 at 16:53
Friday, Jan 15, 2010 at 16:53
I had a naturally aspirated 100 series (1HZ) and went the whole hog!
Snorkel, mandrel 3" system and full dyno tune and pump set up by fuel injection specialist.
Yes the figures were better, than standard, yes it sounded good from the new muffller, but as soon as I put the caravan on the back it became a slug again!
Ok for a steady long and slow but no get up and go if and when needed.
Would I have bothered if I new what the outcome would be? No.
Now have a TD Troopy and there is no comparison when towing and fuel economy is better too as its not struggling all the time.
As for you question, I'd get it set up on a dyno by someone who knows what they are doing, and maybe consider an a/market turbo?
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Follow Up By: Member - Old Girl (QLD) - Saturday, Jan 16, 2010 at 15:48
Saturday, Jan 16, 2010 at 15:48
After the old girl (92 td 80) had her rebuild I wasn't excited at all about performance. Took it to the Dyno. No worries took off like a bullet and drank too with a cloud of smoke. After coming back from the cape got it serviced again. It was using oil so on. The fuel injection fella said it was wound to far so he wound it back. I went to take off with the van and back to square one not enough power. towed the van to the FI mob and they said they had room for only a small adjustment. I can take off now fine but the using of oil is still there when NOT under load. I've given up and leaving it alone. I've given up on fuel consumption too the only way out is a nice new car i think.
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Reply By: GerryP - Friday, Jan 15, 2010 at 22:31
Friday, Jan 15, 2010 at 22:31
I agree with the previous posts, don't adjust without at least an EGT gauge so you can see the effect. The 1HZ do not like running high exhaust temps and can result in blown piston or cracked head if you take it too far.
Having sad that, I have a 1HZ with aftermarket turbo, but have both boost and EGT gauges. Yes , I have 'played' with the fuel delivery and it's very touchy indeed. Quite a bit of experimenting to get it just right with a good (read safe) compromise between power and EGT.
Cheers
Gerry
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Reply By: Member - Bucky - Saturday, Jan 16, 2010 at 09:00
Saturday, Jan 16, 2010 at 09:00
I have always been told, by 1/2 decent machanics, that a motor can only take, or suckk in so much air..
You are really only putting cleaner and cooler air into the motor.
The question you need to ask is just how much more fuel it will use, if You were to tweek the pump..... More fuel, more heat. ( big bang theory )
Turbo charging, and super charging, are a whole different ball game, and if not done right things go bang.
From what information I can gather, basically the same principle applies, but with more variables. Hence the need to get professionals to do the work..ie Dyno tuning, injector timing, and heaps of other things.
Cheers
Bucky
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Reply By: Member - Trackker (QLD) - Saturday, Jan 16, 2010 at 16:24
Saturday, Jan 16, 2010 at 16:24
Peter, on naturally aspirated 1HZ you can wind your max fuel up "or in" and give it a go. You will find it will make a small difference and it is a balance between smoke and power. You will not hurt anything as there will never be enough heat to do any damage to your pistons or valves.
Just screw it in, little by little until your happy but it is a good idea to get a mate in another vehicle behind you to
check for smoke as it is very hard to see it as a driver. I would go the 1/8 turn and then bring it back if you dont like the smoke. Just remember where the original setting was. Some people dont realise that pumps can wear the opposite way as
well and can cause
the governor to supply less fuel at max fuel.
If you had a turbo it may be a different story. I have increased my max fuel on my 12HT to compensate for increased boost of 15psi, so your theory is sound if... you can actually get some more air in there. I have heard that facing your scoop 90 deg towards your windscreen can increase the ram effect but have never tried it. It might pressurise the air more because it has hit a solid object and forces it into the scoop better ?? Most european trucks now have their scoops at 90deg but I fail to see how it might help. Have fun , Dave
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Follow Up By: pdm3006 - Saturday, Jan 16, 2010 at 18:01
Saturday, Jan 16, 2010 at 18:01
Thanks Dave.
I will mark the position before I start so I can return to it if there is too much smoke.
Then when I am next going for a trip with a mate, I will try the 1/8 turn and see what difference it makes to smoke.
On a normally asiprated diesel engine, I believe smoke is the key. Black smoke = too much fuel.
As I said my 1HZ makes no smoke at any throttle position (verified by vehicle following me) and has over 400,000 km on it.
For all I know in it's prior life as a company vehicle, the screw may have been backed out a little.
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