water temprture 80 serise gxl 1hdt
Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 12, 2010 at 14:54
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andy mitchell
hi all
while travelling
home from south coast nsw to Geelong Victoria on Saturday 9/01 towing a 20 foot van weighing aprox 1850 kg loaded the out side temperature was pushing around 40 deg and noticed that the temperature gage was climbing to just over three quarters when travelling at a 100 kph, when i dropped the speed back to around 95 kph the gage would drop back to around half on the gage also when eccelerating up hills the gage would clime again until ecceleration was eased and gage would again drop back to half.i think if i had of kept pushing at around 100kph the gage may have gone into the red.
i have only small
driving lights on the front bar and they have never caused any problems before, also the fan ( factory Toyota) stops spinning immediately when engine is switch off so seems to be working as it should .
the 80 has never ran this hot before can any one give any advise on where i should start to look at rectifying this problem.or should i expect the 80 to be running at high tempretures in 40+ degree heat.
thank you in advance andy
Reply By: andy mitchell - Tuesday, Jan 12, 2010 at 14:58
Tuesday, Jan 12, 2010 at 14:58
sorry gauge
andy
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Jan 12, 2010 at 19:54
Tuesday, Jan 12, 2010 at 19:54
.....and.....Accelerate....not eccelerate...hahahaha
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Reply By: Member - Tour Boy ( Bundy QLD) - Tuesday, Jan 12, 2010 at 14:59
Tuesday, Jan 12, 2010 at 14:59
Yep sounds pretty normal to me, lot of strain on the cooling system in those conditions.
Cheers
Dave
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Reply By: Volvo driver - Tuesday, Jan 12, 2010 at 15:02
Tuesday, Jan 12, 2010 at 15:02
yes it will get hot towing a 20 ft van on a 40+ day,
have much the same combo and always tried not to tow on days like that,
either left early in the morning..dark.. or another day..
always watched the BOM as departure day got closer,
lots of towing vehicles on the side of the saturday and sunday
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Follow Up By: Volvo driver - Tuesday, Jan 12, 2010 at 15:03
Tuesday, Jan 12, 2010 at 15:03
oops
'side of the road'
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Reply By: Gazal Champion - Tuesday, Jan 12, 2010 at 17:52
Tuesday, Jan 12, 2010 at 17:52
Hi Andy,
It says a lot about those engines that they can tow that sort of weight on a 40 deg. day at 90km/h and still sit in the normal zone. I would not worry, you found the solution, ease back to 90Ks as you said. Give the old girl a kiss (car that is) and thank her for a good job
well done.
Remember there is not as much oxygen per cubic foot of air on a hot day so the engine has to work harder to get the same job done.
I own an 96 80 ser. with a 1HD FT engine and that is what I find.
regards, Bruce.
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Reply By: Hairs & Fysh (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 12, 2010 at 18:16
Tuesday, Jan 12, 2010 at 18:16
Hi,
My old girls does the same.
It has a near new radiator and new coolant and only small
driving lights on the front. I have noticed that if I travel at 95-100 in fourth it is fine, 105 in fourth the temp starts to rise, fifth at 110 and it rises only slightly above half way where it sits most. I've learnt to drive to the way it likes to tow the camper. I still keep and eye on the gauge, the revs and what gear I'm in.
I've fixed a piece of fly wire behind the grill right across in front of the radiator to catch small stuff that may clog it, insects, seeds grass, but I doubt that would effect it.
Sorry I don't have an answer for you. :(
Became a member of
Lcool and ask in the 80's Section. Someone will be able answer your question there. Those guys know them inside & out.
Hope that helps. :)
.
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Jan 12, 2010 at 19:58
Tuesday, Jan 12, 2010 at 19:58
Factory gauges only provide an 'indication" of what is happening.
If you're worried (and I wouldn't be too worried unless the gauge goes all the way over into the "danger zone"), then I would recommend fitting an aftermarket temperature gauge (eg: TM2 engine watchdog) and I also swear by the Engine Saver product, which tells you if you've lost any coolant.
It always pays to keep your cooling system in tip top condition when you are expecting your rig to work hard on hot days. I would be taking it regularly (ie: at least every 18 months or so) to a radiator specialist and getting them to clean it out (ie: "rod it") and also
check replace the thermostat and radiator cap.
Roachie
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Follow Up By: Hairs & Fysh (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 12, 2010 at 20:13
Tuesday, Jan 12, 2010 at 20:13
All Good advice Roachie.
Especially about replacing the thermostat and cap regularly. A lot of people over look these two pieces of the cooling system.
A Happy New Year to ya Mate and to the navigator. ;)
Safe travels in 2010.
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Reply By: andy mitchell - Tuesday, Jan 12, 2010 at 21:16
Tuesday, Jan 12, 2010 at 21:16
thanks all
with you're advice i feel a bit more confidant about how the 80 ran, i also forgot to mention that there was 7 people in the vehicle 2 adults and 5 children aged from 17 to 3 years for the trip
home. which took approximately eleven hours mainly due to all the traffic and of coarse the slower speed due to the heat and temperature fluctuations with the 80.
fuel usage was also pretty good i thought, leaving with a full main tank and just refuelling main tank once at Bairnsdale in Vic and only switching to the sub tank about 60kms from
home travelling approximately 780 kms in total.
i am due to replace the timing belt so i will get the radiator reconditioned and look at putting in a new thermostat.
thanks again
regards andy
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Follow Up By: Gazal Champion - Wednesday, Jan 13, 2010 at 19:35
Wednesday, Jan 13, 2010 at 19:35
Hi Andy,
Seriously consider a new radiator. They are not as expensive as you might think and I would think that having your old unit repaired could cost quite a bit more than a new one. I bought a new one for my previous 80 which was a 4.5 petrol 97 mod and paid around $380 for it. Try Ebay or some such, you might be surprised.
Regards,
Bruce.
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Reply By: Wherehegon - Tuesday, Jan 12, 2010 at 23:34
Tuesday, Jan 12, 2010 at 23:34
""also the fan ( factory Toyota) stops spinning immediately when engine is switch off so seems to be working as it should"" Although I think most of the other replys are probably spot on, heavy load, hot day, pushing the old girl to 100k, I would still get the coupling on the fan checked. Just caused it stopped spinning when you stopped the old girl, it should have some resistance in it. A little way to
check it is when she starts up in the morning the fan should be quit noisy then fade out, better to rev it to about 1500 rpm and you will hear it better, BUT this still doesnt guarantee its locking in properly when required. Some people are under the impression that when cruising along the fan doesnt need to cut in due to airflow. This is incorrect. it will still cut in if required and generally is heard in the vehicle. Another way is next time you can and the temp starts to climb pull over put in neutral pop bonnett and grab the throttle cable from under the bonnet and give a rev the fan should be roaring its head off. Regards Steve
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Follow Up By: StormyKnight - Wednesday, Jan 13, 2010 at 00:27
Wednesday, Jan 13, 2010 at 00:27
Yes I agree, you should be able to hear the fan, especially if you change down to 4th. At 2500 rpm it may not be loud enough over the other noises created at this speed.
Basically the gauge tells you the safe operating temperature range. If its not in the red then Toyota are happy with it to run there, but on the same note its wise to be aware of any behaviour that is different as this could be an early sign of a problem.
I suspect the only 'problem' on this occasion was your load combined with the high air temperatures.
Cheers
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