Maralinga returned to traditional owners
Submitted: Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 at 00:21
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Richard Kovac
More than 50 years after Britain's nuclear tests at
Maralinga, in South Australia, the traditional owners have finally got the last of their land back.
ABC News
It will be good to see how it turns out, when we where out that way last year there was talk of making a caravan, tourist Village out of the Town, this was told to us by the managers at the time..
Cheers
Richard
pitty this part hasen't been sorted out
Maralinga veterans still battling for justice
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Reply By: Hairy (NT) - Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 at 02:27
Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 at 02:27
Will the people who use the caravan park be entitled to sue for radiation poisoning?
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 at 03:30
Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 at 03:30
Not Sure Sean
"The actual general radiation level at
Maralinga from background radiation is a lot less than a lot of areas of Australia."
Maybe maybe not, I not like the English to own up to much is it?
Cheers
Richard
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Reply By: Richard Kovac - Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 at 04:12
Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 at 04:12
Mother
Do you think they will drop the bomb???????
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 at 09:30
Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 at 09:30
Thanx Richard, This song always bought tears to my eyes, and more so now I have lost what these mothers lost.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 at 10:42
Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 at 10:42
Great Clip Richard
Cheers
Stephen
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Reply By: racinrob - Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 at 07:37
Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 at 07:37
I spent almost three years at
Maralinga in the late 50's and early 60's as a
young soldier and liken it to the Voyager disaster. The government doesn't want to know about it and as for accepting responsibility if the evidence wasn't there they would deny it ever happened.
The longer the government stall the fewer of us veterans there are to contend with, of all the blokes I served with at that time I'm one of the few survivors.
Rob
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Follow Up By: Member - John G- Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 at 09:25
Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 at 09:25
Well said Rob
While not wishing to detract at all from what has come the way of indigenous folk, the risks to which you guys were exposed, and the resultant physical and psychological outcomes for some, are deserving of the same level of government acknowledgement and support.
Cheers
John
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 at 10:49
Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 at 10:49
Hi Rob
All the best for you and your family for the coming Festive Season. Like my reply below, the Government are always in denial and try to put the blame back on someone else.
I hope your health is good and
well all hope that you get the compensation that you and other servicemen still alive deserve. Like I said below, you were doing a job that was ordered by the Government. If the true be known and it was a real very guarded secret, you would have denied that the tests happened on Australian soil.
All the best
Stephen
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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 at 09:28
Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 at 09:28
I have been told that they intend to close off the area to access by all travellers following this handback. I hope its not true as there is a lot of recent history out there, that I for one and itching to see.
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Follow Up By: Blaze (Berri) - Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 at 13:00
Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 at 13:00
I have spoken to some people out at
Yalata Sir Bonz and I know even the local constabulary took some friends out there a few weeks ago because thay are informed it will be a closed door to follow the Hand Over.
Only time will tell, but it will be a pity that if this happens, eventually over time with it blocked off the wrongs that were done to both traditional and service people will be lost to history..
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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 at 10:23
Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 at 10:23
Hi Richard
Firstly Seasons Greeting to you and your family and all the best for 2010.
Yes it has made the news over here in SA, with one very positive outcome for the area, in the fact they claim the
Maralinga Tjarutja Council want to open the area up for tourism.
As for the veterans, it is a typical Government Cover up, always in denial. When will our Governments face the facts, that our armed forces do a job asked by the Government, then when something goes wrong, the Government try to wash their hands of what has happened and try to put the blame on someone else, and not the Government.
Just a very short story of when my wives cousin was in the army as a Helicopter Pilot. We may all remember a good number of years ago when the two army Blackhawk Helicopter crashed on a night training exercises with the SAS, resulting in the deaths of many of Australia's elite men. In the short, one very high army officer had to put his head on the chopping block and take the blame. My cousin said that he was not able to comment, but was a case of the officer being a first rate officer, was not at blame, but for the sake of the Government, had to take the rap. Another case of jumping for cover and more lives lost and just another story that the Government try to deny.
All the Best
Stephen
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Reply By: Fred G NSW - Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 at 17:10
Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 at 17:10
Image Could Not Be FoundDon't forget the Brits also tested at the Monte Bello Islands off Nth. W.A. coast
Ten years after the last Bang up there on the Monte Bello's, I was a
young sailor in the R.A.N. and the ship I was on was sent up there to
check on radation levels. We were there for a week and no protective precautions of any kind were used, or suggested. I remember the fishing was great. We did not have a clue as to any possible health implications. No O H & S back then. Could you imagine that scenario nowadays.
When we got back to
Fremantle, this was on the front page of the
Perth paper.
I don't know if any ill affects have subsequently afflicted any of that crew, but I am hanging on to that clipping, and hope it never needs to be used for anything other than showing future generations of my family.
Let me take this opportunity to wish all members and visitors a great Xmas, and a healthy 2010 with much ExplorOz'ing of our wonderful country.
Fred.
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Follow Up By: Fred G NSW - Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 at 17:13
Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 at 17:13
Sorry of the quality of the scan, but the clipping is 43 years old.
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Follow Up By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 at 23:57
Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 at 23:57
Hey Fred,
I was on my cousins boat hang out around the montebellos for a week in 06...... It sure is a very strange place to explore. I really want to explore a little further in the next few years before my bones don't allow it
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Follow Up By: Fred G NSW - Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 07:09
Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 07:09
Pete, just like
Maralinga they were shut down for public access after the testing. If the islands are now considered safe and open to public access, so much the better.......more real estate available to explore.
I am sure there would be some great dive sites there.
Merry Xmas.
Fred.
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Follow Up By: Pete Jackman (SA) - Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 13:15
Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 13:15
They hve been open since the mid 90's. Somewhere I have a photo of me taken at ground zero in 95.
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Reply By: ricochet - Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 at 18:26
Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 at 18:26
recently spoke to some people who have worked out there with the traditional owners and they are keen to open the lands to travellers. they see it as a way to provide employment for their people and have a sustainable future.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 at 19:29
Sunday, Dec 20, 2009 at 19:29
Thats exactly what I've heard too. Hope it happens.
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 00:24
Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 00:24
Phil
That is what I would like to see, also hope it works
well.
It should open up some lands to us 4WDivers.
Cheers
Richard
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Follow Up By: get outmore - Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 09:29
Monday, Dec 21, 2009 at 09:29
before you get too excited be aware this hasnt happened anywhere else
- there are plenty of opportunities for it at such
places like the peterman ranges just to name one spot
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Reply By: Kumunara (NT) - Thursday, Dec 24, 2009 at 13:18
Thursday, Dec 24, 2009 at 13:18
Richard
Thank you for posting this information.
I spent years over the far west coast of SA and had a lot to do with the
Yalata Community.
I was there when they originally got the
Maralinga Tjarutja lands back but without the two
test sites at
Maralinga and
Emu Junction which were still contaminated.
What a lot of Australia is not aware of is the effects the bomb tests had, including children being born deformed.
Tjilpi
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Friday, Dec 25, 2009 at 14:58
Friday, Dec 25, 2009 at 14:58
Tjilpi
Thanks
And I'm sure you are right "What a lot of Australia is not aware of is the effects the bomb tests had, including children being born deformed."
I also read once that it is the way they date wine grapes in this country, pre and post the nuclear fallout, not a good thing :-(
Cheers
Richard
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