Easy question! What size spanner do I need to fit a 50 mm towball nut?

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I'm picking up a camper trailer this week and need to get a tongue and fit a tregg hitch to it.

Will a 10" shifter do the trick?
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Reply By: Member - Stuart P (WA) - Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 17:06

Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 17:06
36mm 10 inch cresent no more like a 12 -15 inch cresent
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 22:17

Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 22:17
Stuart

No one out side of WA know what you mean, by saying cresent.. :-))
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Thoughtfully- Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 22:33

Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 22:33
isnt it crescent? I have a 300mm one
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 23:02

Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 23:02
Richard, Kiwis would call it a 'crissindt', so it would be close.
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Monday, Jul 13, 2009 at 01:15

Monday, Jul 13, 2009 at 01:15
Sorry Stuart, I was nit correcting your spelling I new what you meant..
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Thoughtfully- Monday, Jul 13, 2009 at 06:22

Monday, Jul 13, 2009 at 06:22
I wasnt being trite. What IS a cresent? I might need one.
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Monday, Jul 13, 2009 at 07:56

Monday, Jul 13, 2009 at 07:56
the kiwis also have a "sea spanner'
great little spanner...wont rust, also has a bottle opener..... (they have'nt heard of twist off tops yet)
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Follow Up By: Ray - Monday, Jul 13, 2009 at 09:35

Monday, Jul 13, 2009 at 09:35
I call them bleep fers
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Reply By: Member - Fred B (NT) - Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 17:42

Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 17:42
I use a 3/4W (whitworth) ringspanner that fits both the imperial and metric nuts on towballs. OR 300mm shifter.... the ringy is less likely to take the bark off your knuckles (:
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Follow Up By: Member - William H (WA) - Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 18:41

Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 18:41
Good afternoon Boo Boo.

Use a ring spanner,so you wont skin your self.
Cheers for now.......Bill from Bunbury...WA.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Monday, Jul 13, 2009 at 10:04

Monday, Jul 13, 2009 at 10:04
Bill and Fred

I'll get the bride to put it on, then I know I won't skin my knuckles. hehehehe
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Reply By: gottabjoaken - Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 18:45

Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 18:45
I got a tow ball ring spanner from Hall Towbars knowing I wouldn't have a big enough one.

Seems to be mild steel, so I'll have to see how it handles a piece of pipe to tighten the nut sufficiently.

I would be reluctant to put that much strain on a shifter. The nut has to be freaking tight.

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Follow Up By: tim_c - Monday, Jul 13, 2009 at 11:54

Monday, Jul 13, 2009 at 11:54
Assuming you have one of those flat $10 ones, I can tell you: they don't cope very well at all with a pipe/extension!

I just do it up as tight as I can with the towball spanner (put a rag over the end to save your hands) and I've never had it even start to come loose.
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Reply By: Member - Royce- Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 18:45

Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 18:45
Take a bluddy big shifter just in case!
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Reply By: Gronk - Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 18:58

Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 18:58
A 12" shifter is all you need.....and it doesn't have to be overly tight.....as it should have a spring washer ( must have )..


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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ . . .- Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 19:54

Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 19:54
I second that
A good thick galvanised spring washer is *important* as he said ( must have )

Maîneÿ . . .
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Reply By: Ianw - Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 19:06

Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 19:06
MOST 12 inch shifters will fit. But not all !!! I have 4, 3 fit, one doesn't.!!
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Reply By: henpecked - Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 19:18

Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 19:18
Gripping the flange of the towball to stop it turning whilst tightening/loosening with a stillson can be very helpful.
The towball nut of a genuine Nissan X-Trail is larger than normal...hence the pressed metal spanner referred to above is too small.
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Reply By: Hairs & Fysh (NSW) - Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 19:50

Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 19:50
Boo Boo,
A 300mm shifter does the job, and the nut has a spring washer with it.

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Reply By: Robin Miller - Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 19:51

Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 19:51
Almost BooBoo

We needed to come up with another lateral solution for this problem to avoid carry to many tools so we got our existing 10 inch and ground it out the few extra mm needed (ground on the fixed side)
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Follow Up By: Kim and Damn Dog - Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 21:29

Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 21:29
That mind is always ticking over. LOL

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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Thoughtfully- Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 22:35

Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 22:35
I just filed an extra tooth into the moving jaw and it opens that little bit extra
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (NSW) - Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 20:19

Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 20:19
1"5/16 af
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Follow Up By: Member - Stuart P (WA) - Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 23:13

Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 23:13
36mm
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Reply By: happytravelers - Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 20:33

Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 20:33
An easy question with an easy answer. I fit many tow bars in my work, and most balls require a 33mm socket to fit the securing nut.
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Reply By: Gone Bush (WA) - Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 21:04

Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 21:04
I think that towballs should be changed quite often, depending on how much towing you do. They are pretty cheap to buy.

When you get a new one, keep the nut from the old one and use it on the new one as a lock nut.

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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Thoughtfully- Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 22:36

Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 22:36
Why should they be changed?
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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 22:46

Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 22:46
The towball exists under a terrific amount of stress pulling a caravan. Backwards and forwards jarring etc. Spending $10 on a new one every year is very cheap insurance.

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Follow Up By: Member - Ed. C. (QLD) - Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 23:50

Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 23:50
+ the fact that they _do_ wear....

I inspect mine before any major trip, and if it shows signs of wear, I replace it..
and I always carry a spare...

Confucius say.....
"He who lie underneath automobile with tool in hand,
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Follow Up By: Flywest - Monday, Jul 13, 2009 at 00:31

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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 22:54

Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 22:54
Im probably wrong but does a Tregg hitch actaully have a towball

I thought it was the one like a universal and just slotted into a normal 50mm towbar hole.


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Follow Up By: Gronk - Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 23:13

Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 23:13
It doesn't have a towball....but it still has the same size bolt and nut....

And to answer a reply from above...a socket will not usually fit as the length of the bolt is too long for a socket !!
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Follow Up By: Dion - Monday, Jul 13, 2009 at 20:39

Monday, Jul 13, 2009 at 20:39
Deep sockets do fit.
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Reply By: Member - Richard C (ACT) - Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 23:08

Sunday, Jul 12, 2009 at 23:08
I had to take one off this weekend.

I soaked it with WD40 first then used as mentioned above 'a bloody big shifter' at least 12" long - no troubles.

I found it easier to leave the tongue in the hitch but turn it up side down so the nut is on the top


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Reply By: Flywest - Monday, Jul 13, 2009 at 00:35

Monday, Jul 13, 2009 at 00:35
The idea of a 2nd old nut as a lock nut has a lot of merit!

Primarily because, it keeps the thread on the ball stem that normally remains exposed with just one nut - "covered" and thus prevents the threads from being constantly hammered with gravel stones flicked up off your tyres on rough roads, and becoming "burred over" to the point that it becomes hard to get the damn things off - even with lubrication.

Nuthin' wrong with carrying spare balls and at least 2 nuts! ;o)

Cheers!
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Reply By: Member - Keith P (NSW) - Monday, Jul 13, 2009 at 01:12

Monday, Jul 13, 2009 at 01:12
I carry a 18" Bahco shifter (approx 60 years old) in my truck all the time.
Not only does it fit the hitch nuts...but is also a decent sized walloper to put any stupid animal that gets clobbered by my bullbar out of its misery.
Regarding the long threads on hitches and towballs...I usually cut off the excess....leaving enuff thread to drill a hole thru and fit a good-sized splitpin....just in case !!!


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Reply By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Monday, Jul 13, 2009 at 06:51

Monday, Jul 13, 2009 at 06:51
Thanks for the info everyone

The camper trailer was almost an impulse buy and we are 1200 km from home and a 12" shifter or any big spanner for that matter was not included in the tool box for this trip.

It will be now.
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Monday, Jul 13, 2009 at 08:03

Monday, Jul 13, 2009 at 08:03
Just to be sure Boo Boo a 4ft pair of Stilsens will take care of all the nuts around the place!!....lol.


Cheers Axle.
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Reply By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Monday, Jul 13, 2009 at 10:21

Monday, Jul 13, 2009 at 10:21
Axle

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Reply By: Shaker - Tuesday, Jul 14, 2009 at 15:54

Tuesday, Jul 14, 2009 at 15:54
Easy question??

39 answers on a spanner size!
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