Sevylor Inflatable or Plastic kayak

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I'm looking at buying a Sevylor Inflatable kayak or the stronger tougher Plastic kayak , can another give me any advice on which should be better overall
i know the inflatable can store away and takes up less room but could I paddle a few km's with one or is the plastic type better

Thanks Kenny
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Reply By: Member - Royce- Wednesday, Jun 11, 2008 at 23:32

Wednesday, Jun 11, 2008 at 23:32
We have two Sevylor inflateable kayaks.... the river 1X and 2X. They are fantastic in white water, but very slow in flat water and easily blown about by the wind.

There are other models that may suit you that are inflateable. I have an Innoxa Gummotex which is a little better.

The single Sevylor inflateable is pretty hard to keep moving in a straight line whilst the double is a lot better.
They are extremely tough. I haven't managed to hole them and have smashed and dragged them over a lot of rocks! They are surprisingly heavy.

A plastic kayak can be very light and easy to handle. Easy to lift and strap onto a roof. There is an incredible range.

They range from bath-tub like to sleek racing models. I've got a Minnow which is a bathtub like fun kayak while the Dancers are a lot more versatile.

Long and sleek is easier to keep in a straight line but less stable.

It all depends on what sort of paddling you want to do, for how many, how experienced.

What do you drive. Where do you want to take it? For how many people? What price range?

Cheers Royce





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Follow Up By: KennyBWilson - Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 08:14

Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 08:14
Thanks for that imput Royce,

I wasn't sure if the inflatables were harder to paddle than the minnow types, but i know if you fall off a inflatable you can get back on it where with the cockpit types you can't i don't think
Another question is whether the Canadian type be easy and better to paddle in the water than the minnow kayaks or are they the same
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Follow Up By: Member - Royce- Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:05

Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:05
The minnows are little bathtubs. The single Sevylor is similar, but heavier and more effected by wind.

With a bit of proctice, you can get back into a Minnow. It has such a large cockpit, but of course you are likely to have swamped it, so it's full of water.

The Sevylors are self baling if you remove the plugs in the bottom and unsinkable. Extremely safe and let you go down raging white water. I have never used mine in the sea, but I think they would be great fun..

'Canadians' are completely open canoes. Usually two person and therefore longer. The longer the easier to paddle forwards, but harder to turn. Swamp easily but very stable.

The most common are the rotomold plastics. They are very heavy. Lighter fibreglass ones are often sleeker and better to paddle. I have two of the rotomolds and they are very tough. Used them heaps.

A Minnow and a Canadian are completely different things. I have often carried each on roof top and trailer... the Minnow you can pick up with one hand and throw onto a roof. The Canadian canoe really needs two people to lift..

Sounds like you need to go for a couple of paddles first... not in Gippsland are you? We could go out with a few to have a play!

I've got enough kayaks and canoes to handle.... about 17 bodies!

Now that is just stupid... I'm just a mug paddler, but over the years seem to have picked up 'bargains' around the place.

We only went paddling three times this Summer.

Cheers Royce




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Reply By: Member - Royce- Wednesday, Jun 11, 2008 at 23:33

Wednesday, Jun 11, 2008 at 23:33
BTW don't pay over $500 for the Sevylors.... search around, you can find them for about that.
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Follow Up By: The Landy - Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 08:35

Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 08:35
Hi Royce

How have you found the gumotex brand? I looked at some of these previously and was reasonably impressed versus the Sevylors.

Although I do find them a little cumbersome versus my K1 and racing ski...........but good for outback travel.
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Follow Up By: Member - Royce- Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:18

Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:18
I love my Gummotex! We have something on the Thomson River here called "Chinaman's Bend" or "Horseshoe Bend" where miners tunnelled through a mountain to divert the river.

The plan was to get at the bend once it was dry to retrieve the alluvial gold. Don't think it worked out, but there is now a tunnel about 100m long straight through the mountain. The river runs through and...

I TOOK MY GUMMOTEX THROUGH!....... Whooo Hooooo. Got the pics to prove it!!

I don't think I could have done it with any other craft except a lilo.

I carried the deflated kayak in in a backpack, inflated it and then went through.... fantastic.

They track better than the Sevylors. That is with one paddler. When you have two on board they are pathetic. They do however have a rudder assembly available which may work.

The biggest negative is that no matter how well inflated, I find that it's hard to keep a good upright seated position in them.

Absolutely different craft to the K1s.... I bought a K1 with the idea of making a fool of myself in the Blue Rock Classic.. paddling section..... but made a fool of myself the first time I tried it out..

DAMN! How do you stay up in those things!

Cheers Royce













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Follow Up By: The Landy - Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:30

Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:30
I don't always, I've missed a couple of starts after getting caught up in the wash at the start of a race. Practice!

Mind you I normally only race it on very flat water....done the hawkesbury Classic in the Ski a couple of times, maybe this year again.

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Reply By: The Landy - Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 08:31

Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 08:31
I think it comes down to intended use and available storage. If storage isn't a problem I would be inclined to go the hard plastic, cockpit type minnow or the like.

I think that style is more versatile especially if you are going to explore outback rivers/creeks.
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Follow Up By: Member - Royce- Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 09:56

Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 09:56
and depending on your setup, it can be a lot easier to shove a couple of plastic kayaks on the roof than fold up and then reinflate the inflateables.. they are just as heavy and still take up space.

They are pretty much aerodynamic too..
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Reply By: Graeme67 - Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:23

Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:23
Bic Kayaks make one called the Yakka which has a rigid hull, but inflatable upper deck. It also folds in half for storage.
Haven't used one myself but they may be worth a look. I think they are only single seat though.

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Follow Up By: KennyBWilson - Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 18:58

Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 18:58
Hey they look neat, might have a look this weekend
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Reply By: Lazybugger - Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:48

Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:48
What sort of application are you looking at?

If its fishing the best place to head is the Australian Kayak Fishing Forum, AKFF.net.

While there are a few guys who start out with inflatables for fishing most move to plastics pretty quickly. You should also consider whether a Sit on top kayak might be more suited as opposed to Sit in.

Even if you aren't looking at it for fishing, checkout the AKFF wiki & the which kayak for me section which will give you some good ideas of the variety of kayaks available. There are plenty out there and a lot of them can easliy accomodate more than just fishing.
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Reply By: Member - Porl - Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:35

Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:35
Geez Royce, what a resource you are, will cutting and pasting this one.
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Reply By: Hairy (NT) - Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:00

Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:00
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I agree with Royce....
This is what we bought while over west for Christmas,
It fits two adults and two kids comfortably.
The inflatables we had used before were good but this is a lot better to paddle, especially in wind.

Brand : Finn
Model : Reflection
Dimensions: Length 4.25 metres
Beam 0.90 metres
Weight 35 kg

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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 15:43

Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 15:43
Had had an inflatable boat in the past, and wouldn't do that again. Also had a 16' Canadian too, but way too cumbersome.

We weighed up the options recently and bought an RTM Ocean Duo (double sit-on plastic Kayak). We wanted something that was pretty versatile - could be used in rough water, smooth, inland rivers, surf etc and could be used for 1,2 or 3 people. Used it for the first time last month up on the Diamantina and Thompson Rivers and Cooper creek. It sat fine on the roof - didn't notice any change in fuel consumption. Not sure whether we would have been better with 2 singles or not, but with the double, I still have plenty of room left on the roofrack for firewood.
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Reply By: KennyBWilson - Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 19:14

Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 19:14
While searching more on the web I also found Hobie with the mirage drive very nice and Condor fibreglass kayaks very nice too

There are too many types to choose from
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Reply By: Member - Michael O (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 23:08

Thursday, Jun 12, 2008 at 23:08
We bought a Colorado from Sevylor on eBay a couple of years ago for about $500.



Folds up into a bag the size of a suitcase and easy to inflate with a small Coleman footpump. A couple of collapsible paddles, some lifejackets, and we're away!

Even the kids haven't managed to hole it yet and it's seen some rugged use (especially carting firewood from the opposite bank at Cullymurra Waterhole on the Cooper...)

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Follow Up By: KennyBWilson - Friday, Jun 13, 2008 at 00:51

Friday, Jun 13, 2008 at 00:51
I did have a look at this model up at Lonsdale , they say this would be the most safest in the water and not that hard getting in or out , but I haven't tried it yet, did you find it easy to paddle and did the wind push you to the side alot
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Follow Up By: Member - Michael O (NSW) - Friday, Jun 13, 2008 at 06:34

Friday, Jun 13, 2008 at 06:34
I haven't been in a kayak/canoe that didn't get pushed around a bit by the wind...

This one has small plastic fins (?strakes) along the bottom of the hull that give it some directional stability. Plenty of space for storage and very stable - the kids usually end up using it as a diving platform!

The sides are quite high and I was concerned the kids might not be able to reach over to get the paddles in but my boy was paddling with me when he was 6 without any dramas.
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Follow Up By: KennyBWilson - Friday, Jun 13, 2008 at 20:18

Friday, Jun 13, 2008 at 20:18
The place at Lonsdale wants $800 for the Colorado double I do like it

Whats it like to get back in if you fall off it
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