PM Gives ground on petrol

Baz what fuel savings are you getting at 90?. I often tow at this speed but find I am to impatiant to stay on 90 for long . What rpm is the Jack auto doing at this speed?. My manual Jack does 2500 at 100.
Ches Pete

Pete, I cant give you an accurate figure on the Jack at 90 kph.
What I can tell you is that last year touring the outback, towing a
C/t consumption dropped from 5.5 k to a litre at 110 kph to
7k per L by staying under 100kph. I am assuming I can get it down to 8k/L by staying at around 90kph. That is the same as I get country driving, not towing, at 110kph. I think the auto does
about 2500 at 100kph. You may find the revs may not drop that much at 90kph as you may spend more time in 4th, but the savings come from reduced drag from the air & the motor perhaps
producing better torque at that speed. The Jack is only a touring
driver, the 2 Peugeots I use went from 13 k per L to 16k. That
equates to 6.25 L per 100k down from 7.7L/100. That is serious
diesel type economy, especially from a 2L auto 4 speed.
Mate ,I felt like I was stopped when first doing it, but now I am
used to it & find I'm not the only one doing it. I already save heaps by driving low value cars (no depreciation) & I reckon this
is the only way I can cut fuel use. Its useless complaining about
the price, look to what you do control. cheers...oldbaz

Thanks for the reply Baz. I am with you on depreciation. If you buy smart you can avoid big repair bills and depreciation. Sounds like you are happy with the Jack as I am with mine. Covered 25000ks so far and no problems only tyres and servicing.
Cheers Pete

Although a reduction in excise is better than a reduction/re,oval of GST as business already receive input credits for GST on fuel in any case. So the fairer way to go would be the excise, especially as business is hurting just as much.....

Hey Kevie if you are there jump in any time.


Hi Theo how goes it?

G'day Wayne,

All's well here! How about you? Going to Peak Hill? We are planning to go for the week so maybe we'll see you there.

Kind regards

Theo

Nah Mate,
unfortunately work lines up with that week so i am out of luck this time around too. bummer

there's always next year, and if not i should be on Long Service Leave in 2010 with no plans to come back in 2011 yayyyyyyyyy

Hear what you are saying but, political expediency usually means that the remedy will be short-sighted and done to placate the masses as quickly as possible. Governments’ rarely have the fortitude to look beyond the present term of parliament, usually because voters are fixated on the present not the future themselves.

Regarding gas powered vehicles why doesn't someone develop a sustem by where you can gas up your car from your gas supply at home.

Such a system does exist, I saw it demonstrated at least 15 years ago in Canberra for CNG.

Landy, it saddens me, but I can only agree with you. The shortsightedness of our pollies is insulting to the electorate. We need a polly with the balls of Winston Churchill, when he said"I can offer you nothing but blood, sweat and toil etc" There is not going to be any quick, cheap solution to this. It will require major investment and long term commitment to put alternative infrastructures in place. But it is already feasible. I think the public is less stupid than the pollies give them credit for. If either party said, we will undertake to change the fuel infrastucture of Australia. It will take x years to roll it out and cost us all $XXXXXXX, then I think the public would go along with it. It may be expensive now, but in the long run it will be a bargain. If the current fuel charge is take off, they have to put another charge on somewhere else to replace the revenue that now goes to the states.
Mogul, I understand that such CNG systems have existed for years and are available in New Zealand. I keep asking, but no-one answers. Is there anyone out there in EO land who knows about this stuff in NZ? i have only heard 3rd hand that it is already used in NZ. You can bet that the oil companies haven't been arguing for the roll out of this technology in Australia.

Found a link here.

Mogul, your blood is worth bottling. I have been looking without success for a link like that. So why don't we do it here? What is to stop any of us importing one of these to run our car? And why aren't the pollies telling us about this rather than the BS about the fuel tax?

Are you reading this Porl? With the $ you made on LNC shares, perhaps you could set up a business importing these and put shellmob out of business.

GST replaced wholesale sales tax.