$1600 quote for reversing camera on car and van . OK ?
Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 19:22
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Member - Willie , Epping .Syd.
Price was quoted for coming out to van location and fitting camera to car and to van , wiring it all up and fitting a screen in the Cruiser .
Is that quote over the top , or around the mark ?
Thanks ,
Willie .
Reply By: Brew69(SA) - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 19:24
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 19:24
I paid $250ish for my to be installed minus the van camera. I think they have pictures of you naked. :)
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 20:03
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 20:03
Terrifying for them if true !
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Follow Up By: Brew69(SA) - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 20:31
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 20:31
By the way
mine is a Polaris.
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Reply By: GerryP - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 19:31
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 19:31
Hi Willie,
It sounds a bit over the top, although it would depend on what kind of screen you are getting. Some motorised in-dash units can be over $1000 just by themselves. Cameras also come as either CCD or CMOS, the latter being a lot cheaper, but giving a somewhat inferior picture. CMOS are OK for occasional use (e.g. reversing only) but annoying when used constantly as a rear view mirror alternative. Most advertised kits are below $500. I don't know how much cost would be involved in installation, but wouldn't take it anywhere near $1600. I would suggest getting another quote or at least insisting on a
breakdown of where the $1600 is going.
Cheers
Gerry
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 20:04
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 20:04
I will ring them and
check which one it is . Thanks for your input .
Willie .
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 19:32
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 19:32
Is that u Wiilie Mail me, will give u full instructions Would only take a Saturday to do it yourself Is that for the gear as
well, as the dearest Polaris unit is under $1000 and they would fit it pretty quick and I would think for a lot less than that.
Depending on what u want, if its like
mine parts would cost less than $600 and its only time to do it. For $1600 I would nearly drive down and do it.
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 20:09
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 20:09
Hi Graham ,
I am an incapable clutz with things like this
I have decided to mount my camera on the high rear bumper of the Bushtracker though - not on the roof . That way it will not get caught on the roof cover .
I am going to ask them what brand of camera and screen they are quoting on .
It sounds like they are a tad expensive .
Thanks ,
Willie .
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:01
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:01
I have a piece of foam with a cutout in it that I just put over the camera when I put the cover on, the cover holds it in place. Survived the last two weeks storms OK. And cant get pinched from up high hopefully.
Also I found as I said in the other thread Dont get a camera with IR. They arent as good in
bright sunlight as a straight mini cam. Tried both and can assure you its true. The Swann with IR had no colour everyhing was a washed out beige. If u put a cover over it like a bucket it improved but was no good in
bright daylight. The $49 minicam from Ebay is perfect.
Also a separate screen is FARRRRRRR better than a rear vison mirror one as it reflects and cant show the
pic thru the image very
well. It will if u point it down away from the window but that defeats the point a bit doesnt it. All found out by trial and error and $ wasted
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:17
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:17
"Don't get a camera with IR. They aren't as good in
bright sunlight as a straight mini cam"
My Poron has IR and its excellent in
bright sunlight as
well as at night.
I would suggest that the camera you had was perhaps faulty in its aperture control.
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:29
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:29
Mine was a SWANN and when I quizzed them the tech said
" They are optimized for low light conditions as its hard to build one which is optimized for both".
Only going on pure experience.
It could be a mismatch between makes but I think not with thisa particular one. I realise others have had success but just am just impating my trial and failure with this one.
The ordinary one works fine and i can reverse into my garage with just the brake and reverse lights and see quite
well. Havent tried the van in the dark yet.
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 22:05
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 22:05
I should add that the IR is not all that effective at night anyway as the IR LED's only emit enough light to see a couple of meters.
I agree with you about the brake and reversing light assist at night.
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Reply By: Motherhen - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 19:52
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 19:52
Ouch!
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 20:11
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 20:11
Mrs Hen ,
These are the people BT recommended , as they did not want to do it themselves during my factory visit in Feb to have an extra solar panel and battery put in .
Willie .
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 20:41
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 20:41
Hi Willie
I have heard no complaints about the work Sound in Motion do with fitting the cameras to new BTs and tow vehicles, and thought that this added around $2 or 3g to the price of a new rig - not sure about that price though. We went for the Hong Kong eBay $9 cameras and did the work ourselves - of course the result is not as good.
Mh
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Reply By: TD100 - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 20:00
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 20:00
Hi Willie,
i bought a relacement mirror(interior)3.5"screen with 2 colour night vision cameras to fit to rear of cruiser and caravan which might i add work brilliantly off ebay to my door for $208!! i found problems finding room for another gadget on my dash/console as it is pretty
well full.the screen is plenty big enough to see what is going on behind both vehicles.full function remote controlled as
well.i dont think $1600 is good to say the least.cheers Paul
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:16
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:16
OK , Thanks for the info Paul . I have not got much room left either .
Willie .
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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 20:14
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 20:14
I organized a deal for a few on her awhile ago. (Roachie was one who bought one also)
Poron camera and Monitor was about $295-.
I think Roachie later got another camera for his Ultimate Camper and that was about $130- odd dollars.
This brand is also marketed as Polaris and and about three other brand names.
Easy to fit do it yourself in a few hours.
Me thinks these guys have seen you coming.
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 20:15
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 20:15
That should read "A few on HERE"
Need to read properly :-)
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:15
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:15
G'day John,
Yeh, the extra camera, with it's associated wiring, plugs etc, was about another $300-; but that's still only $600- all-up and I fitted it myself (and I'm a banker, not a mechanic's back-side...hahaha)
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:23
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:23
Roachie ,
We may have gone to the same handyman school.
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Follow Up By: Des Lexic - Thursday, Jan 10, 2008 at 15:08
Thursday, Jan 10, 2008 at 15:08
Willie,
You might be wearing the Dunce's hat from the Handyman's School, but that is only cos you pinched it from Roachie. LOL
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Reply By: Member - Noldi (WA) - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 20:19
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 20:19
Hi Will,
been looking at them myself I have seen brand new unit in Aus on ebay with three inputs (including PC) and 7" monitor of $300 I would have thought fitting would have been less then $200
Rgds
Ian
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:26
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:26
Thanks Ian ,
It seems the problem is more about finding a good installer at a reasonable price than getting the hardware .
Willie .
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Follow Up By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:55
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:55
Derek best who is an advertiser on here sells what looks like a good kit and is very helpful. His business is
ABR, website
www.sidewinder.com.au
Cheers
Pete
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Reply By: Gob & Denny(hampton park vic) - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 20:40
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 20:40
goodday willie
buy the bits and then get a price for install only if you dont feel you want to do it yourself
tell them you want a conduit piping under the van to protect the wires otherwise most just put a few cable ties on and afterv a few trips they become brittle break off and the cables dangle (i have had to slowly refix the cable underneath the van for my
solar power)
steve
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 20:54
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 20:54
Why not run the wires thru the chassis like I did . I pushed a piece of alky water pipe up till it got to an opening at the front and just pulled the cable thru. Dead easy ( provided you have an entry point up near the front.)
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:29
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:29
Steve and Graham ,
I will check out both ideas , but I certainly won't let them run them exposed under the van or car .
Actually the wires will be going straight through the back wall of the van into a big cargo hold . I am not sure where I will take them then .
You guys are embarrassing me into trying to do this myself .
Thanks ,
Willie .
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Follow Up By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:52
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:52
The other trick to running wires through any sort of tube is to use string, tie a cotton ball on the end and suck it through with a vacuum cleaner (don't let SWMBO catch you in the garden doing this through irrigation pipe with the good vacuum cleaner!)
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 22:41
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 22:41
That's very clever Pete - great tip .
Thanks ,
Willie .
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Follow Up By: Member -Signman - Thursday, Jan 10, 2008 at 14:17
Thursday, Jan 10, 2008 at 14:17
Hey Pajman Pete
10 points for your tip!! Gotta do a job this weekend and I'll definately save a lot of time following your idea
Thanks
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Reply By: Peter 2 - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:13
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:13
Willie
I just had a Polaris fitted to the new bus and it was about $1200 fitted which included a voltage reducer (bus is 24volt) and full installation, it is on all the time and also has infrared for night vision.
Works very well, think the model had a '60' in it.
Make sure you get a wired one as the wireless ones pick up a lot of interference.
Peter
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:21
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:21
Hi Peter ,
Who did the installation ? I have been warned about the wireless ones.
Thanks ,
Willie .
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Follow Up By: Peter 2 - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 22:08
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 22:08
Willie
I've no idea who did it as the dealer organised the installation before delivery. I found the model of camera and screen on the net somewhere (can't find it now) and it was about $500 to buy outright. They also supplied the stepdown transformer and then ran the wiring the full length of the bus to install the camera right up the top just below the roofline at the rear. the dealer said it took 2 guys 2/3rds of the day to do the installation and the wiring is all out of sight. So $1200 was probably reasonable, I wasn't paying ;-))
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Reply By:- Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:16
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:16
G'Day Willie,
I got a 4.5" screen and CCD camera wired into the Patrol for $600 total. This included extra wiring to the back of the vehicle for caravan fitment at a later date.
They quoted $250 for "heavy duty" CCD camera on van and another $100 to fit.
Total $950.
Me thinks for $1600 they meet way too many people with more money than sense.
Regards
Rolande
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Reply By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:18
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:18
I have a sub-notebook 'puter on a stand in the Cruiser . Would it be possible to have the cameras hooked up to this ?
Thanks ,
Willie .
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:25
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:25
Perhaps if you have a TV tuner card or an AV or video input. I bought that screen to hook up to the notebook which is going to be perched on the cargo barrier and the screen has AV, VGA
( notebook input) and TV nd is a touchscreen as well So if u had one of them $225 from Honkers you could run it into it but only 1 thing at a time.
Would be better with separate small screen Will send u a pic on Saturday of what Im thinking of adding beside my 8" screen which will do the job exactly.
God any more screens and I will need a copilot.LOL
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:33
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:33
OK thanks Graham - you have my email address there .
Willie .
PS . I have a screen breeding problem too .
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Reply By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Thursday, Jan 10, 2008 at 14:44
Thursday, Jan 10, 2008 at 14:44
I just read about a great idea on the Bushtracker Owners Group
Forum .
A member ( Tellem Bugrem ) installed a small flat screen TV in the back of his 4WD and he looks at the screen through his rear view mirror .
Solves the problem of where to put another screen . I know it's naughty , but I was thinking of maybe mounting one on the cargo barrier .
The installation would need to be quick detachable so that it could be removed when the van was not on the back and I wanted to see out the back window . ALTHOUGH , if you angled the screen and the mirror , you could mount the screen off-centre .
This idea has certainly got me thinking .
Willie .
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