Suspension Change.

Submitted: Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 07:05
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One of the things on the "TO DO List" before I head off was to change the suspension on the Troopie.

No big deal, picked the springs, shocks, bushes, shackles and pins. I am doing it at home in the driveway and thought it would take 3 to 4 hours. It has been a while since I have changed the full suspension on a vehicle so I would take my time.

5:30 last night I had just finished the rear springs only.
What had happened the pins on the front of the rear spring had frozen solid. I could not remove the pin and there was no rotation between the spring bush and the pin. This could have meant that the main leaf could have broken due to metal fatigue while driving over corrugations.

The first spring took hours to remove, I was trying to save the springs. In the end I used the angle grinder an cut the spring off and was able to slide the pin and the end of the spring out through the big hole in the spring bracket. The other spring was the same, frozen, but didn't take as long to change as I already knew what I had to do.

When I ordered the new suspension I had also ordered new greaseable pins and shackles. This should stop the frozen pin problem in the future. The front being coils it should not cause too many problems to day, I hope.

Wayne
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Reply By: Willem - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 08:26

Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 08:26
Wayne

The older you get the longer it takes...lol

I guessed that removinmg the old tin from the garage roof would take 2-3 hours. It ended up taking 3 days.

Same goes with mechanical stuff. These days I save up and get a mechanic to do the hard yard.

Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 09:25

Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 09:25
Wayne
You must like being punished, I took mine into ARB at Rockhampton to have the front done with OME, sat and watched a DVD, in about 2 hours I was on the road, 6 weeks later I was back in Rockhampton for the rear , same again , 2 hours of relaxation and job was done, I guess when you have a hoist and air tools makes a job a lot easier,the old fire stick goes a long way too ,

Have Fun and skun knuckles
Doug
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 09:56

Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 09:56
Doug,

The pins in the 75 Series are different to the 78 Series so I have found out. The 78 Series has a steel pin and steel bush surrounded by a rubber bush. When they are frozen together the only way out was to cut.

The pin and bush that I am replacing it with is like the set up on the 75 Series, pin and bush.

Wayne
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 09:58

Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 09:58
Yeh and you can bet the 70 series will be different again .....
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 10:01

Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 10:01
Wayne
I meant to ask you , what brand of spring did you buy , and make sure you have the right tool for the coils , ie a CLAMP.........BOINNGGGG........OUCH
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 10:14

Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 10:14
Doug,

TJM supplied the springs, shocks and bushes and with the front coils there is no need to compress.

Vehicle on axle stands, wheels off, remove front sway bar, remove shocks, lower front diff housing via trolley jack and the springs will just about fall out. Putting new front springs in can be a little harder being a bit longer but with a little brute force they will go in.

Wayne
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Follow Up By: 120scruiser (NSW) - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 10:27

Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 10:27
Once your done drop down with the beast and I will check the wheel alignment on it for you Wayne.
The new front coils will probably be the same length as the standard ones, just bigger.
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 10:35

Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 10:35
120scruiser
You won't believe this but after replacing springs, and later steering knuckles by me,I measured with calipers and counted the threads on the old one before removal. I have never had a wheel alignment done, it drives straight, feels ok and I don't get uneven tyre wear, must be lucky eh,

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Follow Up By: 120scruiser (NSW) - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 14:24

Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 14:24
I can believe that Doug
I have done a few and alot don't need adjusting at all.
It still pays to check as tyres are expensive to scrub out.
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 20:00

Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 20:00
Doug,

Front coils just about fell out, and the new ones fitted in as easy as the old ones came out.

Wayne
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 20:48

Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 20:48
Wayne
Thats good , one you don't need is a coil spring smack in the face .

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Reply By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 10:27

Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 10:27
TJM eh, is that the series 2000 set, probably will serve you well and you won't know your in the same 4x4 when you get rolling, .......................................
Just that when I mentioned to the bloke who runs the TJM store in town South of Townsville that I had bought OME his answer was I did the right purchase, and that was only because TJM couldn't do it on 5 mins notice and ARB did ,
I'm not knocking your choice, probably just as good , you will be in a position to keep us all informed on how they go, look out for the wild coil on the loose....lol
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 10:35

Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 10:35
Doug,

I have not had a problem with the TJM suspension. I have sold and fitted the suspension, when I had the TJM shop in Penrith, and it is not that bad.

Wayne
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Reply By: Member -Signman - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 19:35

Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 19:35
Wayne
Where you ' looking' at TJM - Narellan??
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