Import GX Patrol 24 Volt
Submitted: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 at 20:56
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Joondalupgerry
Am lloking at buiyng one of these.
If I want to tow my caravan....how do I get on for the electrics thru the 7 pin plug and my brake controller.....do i just wire in rhe controller to one battery etc..I imagine the present trailer plug on it...fitted in Aussie will be 12 volt ?..
What is the norm?
Cheers
Gerry
Reply By: samsgoneagain - Tuesday, May 01, 2007 at 21:09
Tuesday, May 01, 2007 at 21:09
just change all the stuff to 24v -- bulbs etc
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Reply By: Member - Charlie M (SA) - Tuesday, May 01, 2007 at 22:03
Tuesday, May 01, 2007 at 22:03
Asking for trouble, especially if needing to jump-start if you have a flat battery. Radio, Fridges ect either have to be 24v or have reducers installed to go back to 12v.
Cheers
Charlie
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Reply By: Tim HJ61 (WA) - Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 01:09
Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 01:09
Gerry,
I have a 24v Landcruiser import. There is plenty of sensible information around about what to do, or more partcularly what not to do. Try searching for 24v electrics on this site.
Just briefly, you CAN draw 12v from one of the batteries, but what you must NOT do is not recharge the batteries evenly. You will drain one battery and the batteries will become unbalanced. More charge with go to one and not the other, leading to one boiling dry and expiring and the other going flat.
A Redarc Charge equaliser is a fine piece of equipment and once installed will resolve any 24v/12v issues you have.
If only your car is going to tow the van, swapping the light globes to 24v is an option. You may be able to buy a 24v brake controller - again see Redarc they have a lot of useful stuff for these applicaions- try www.redarc.com.au
You can buy voltage reducers, and may need to for your trailer lights, but they are limited in the current they can draw, whereas with the equaliser you can pull a 50A current from one 12v battery for a while, depending on the battery not the charge equaliser, then when the alternator is charging again, the CE balances the charge between the two batteries at it's maximum Amp capacity for as long as it needs to.
Tim
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Reply By: Ray Bates - Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 07:46
Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 07:46
Ascfar as lighting for your caravan you can always fit LED lights
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Reply By: revhead307 - Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 10:05
Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 10:05
What Tim(61) said. I have a GQ Safari 24V import. I run a redarc 10A trailer reducer which powers my 7pin socket.
I only tow small trailers not vans, so 10A suits my needs, you can however get much larger reducers.
I have a 3rd Aux battery, to supply all my large 12v needs, it runs off a 30A 24v - 12v battery charger (same thing as the redarc charge equaliser).
my Safari cranks over way better than my old GQ, personally i love 24V..and have no dramas.
Regards
Jeff
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Reply By: traveller2 - Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 15:17
Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 15:17
Once you have a 24v 4wd you won't want to go back to a 12v one, far less electrical problems, current is half what is required on 12v so less problems with voltage drops over poor connections. Relays and globes are freely available and thousands of trucks and buses can't be wrong.
Fit a Redarc Charge Equaliser to enable the use of 12v accessories, some of the later Waeco and Autofridge frigs will run on 12 or 24v which is even better.
If you are the only vehicle towing the van then change the globes to 24v or alternatively fit multivolt LED's which work
well but are expensive.
If the van has a 12v battery in it then the instructions with the charge equaliser will show you how to wire it up as a third battery on the vehicle.
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Follow Up By: Tim HJ61 (WA) - Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 21:08
Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 21:08
My Redarc is a 20A and generally it copes with my current needs.
However I ran into troubles when I was running two fridges during day (One of those cheaper less effective ones that draws 5A all the time),
HF radio, lights etc at night leading to a charge that needing replacing via the Redarc next day as
well as the load of two fridges, laptop.
What I'm getting at is that you need to do your sums and add up your regular 12v load, then probably double it so the Redarc can recover the aux battery the next day of running. Of course, if you get a 30A or 50A Redarc, then you need to make sure you cable to the third battery is capable of handling that current all day. Think of the Redarc as a kind of alternator for the third battery when you are choosing sizes.
Without knowing any of these things, I managed to get it pretty right with the 20A for my uses.
Tim
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Follow Up By: traveller2 - Thursday, May 03, 2007 at 08:13
Thursday, May 03, 2007 at 08:13
I've found that the 20 Amp equaliser worked ok in my situation too but I'm not running a 3rd battery as the 12v auxilary as my frig (the accessory with the highest current draw) runs on straight 24v. I do have HF, cb, stereo, air compressor, aircon, GPS, etc running on 12v with no problems.
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Reply By: Joondalupgerry - Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 22:46
Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 22:46
Thanks for the advice guys...Tinm your wagon/situation appears similar to
mine.I'll invest in a REDARC equaliser.
As a Kiwi I have no problems with an import as they are common in the shakey Isles...We do not have Mr Holden and Ford trying sucessfully lobbying the Govt to protect there over priced products.Cheers
Jerry
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Follow Up By: Tim HJ61 (WA) - Friday, May 04, 2007 at 23:42
Friday, May 04, 2007 at 23:42
Jerry,
Just noticed you monica looks like you live in WA. I'm in Carine.
Drive In Electrics in Chokolich st, Wangara are pretty good help with this stuff and sourced my Redarc for me. I guess you could buy from Redarc in SA direct, but Drive In has helped me with my 24v stuff. It's good to find an auto lec that is confident with 24v stuff, many aren't.
Tim
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