blown 3.0TDi engine
Submitted: Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 19:57
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trevmari
I'm a newbie. Bought a 3.0TDi Patrol new in 2000. Loved the truck. Engine dropped the number 2 piston in Jan.07. Replaced engine with one out of a 2006 rollover with almost no kilometres. Have started doing battle with Nissan but they don't want to know. Since THE EVENT have heard a lot about the engine problems. Thought I would tap in to see what anyone had to say.
Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 20:02
Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 20:02
have a look at www.patrol4x4.com as
well
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Follow Up By: trevmari - Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 22:13
Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 22:13
thanks for the tip. Have posted same on that site but no replies as yet.
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Reply By: Dingo77 - Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 20:29
Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 20:29
G'day,
Sorry to hear the news, give Nissan hell.
Can you tell us a little more about the history of the engine? i.e. maintenance and mods (if any). + what oil did you use...?
Also, what was the month of manufacture in 2000?
Thanks.
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Follow Up By: trevmari - Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 22:12
Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 22:12
engine had 141k. never driven in traffic. never stacked Towed camper trailer for 20k after first 20k of its life. Use Fuchs oil. Oil and filter changed every 7-8k, twice as often as recommended in hand book. Serviced by me. Went near Nissan with what turned out to be a faulty air flow chip but they changed the intercooler for good measure!?! That's the only work it has had done. Factory built date June 2000 roaded in Australia August 2000 so it didn't sit around too long.
Only warranty work at first service was the shorter dipstick and sensor change which added almost 3 litres the oil capacity. The next warranty was a new radiator at Mt Isa at about 21k.
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Follow Up By: pastie - Wednesday, Apr 04, 2007 at 18:00
Wednesday, Apr 04, 2007 at 18:00
This caused by the engine over boosting, all nissan 3L owners need to fit a boost gauge and when the boost gets up to 24psi get the vehicle looked at by a dealer,the vehicles should only run at about 14-16 psi,shorter dipsticks were fitted and a different grade of piston is used in later models but is still caused by too much boost
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Follow Up By: Dingo77 - Thursday, Apr 05, 2007 at 08:44
Thursday, Apr 05, 2007 at 08:44
HI Pastie,
I don't want to open a can of worms but you seem to be pretty sure about your response.
Can you tell me why you have attributed the overboost factor (alone) to piston failure (i.e. holes and/or melting)?
The alloys used in pistons can take significant amounts of heat so there is either a cooling problem (lack of oil), a density problem (pores in alloy) or a reduction in cylinder volume causing increased compression (due to soot build up).
I've heard that there is an oil channel located directly underneath the piston head, has anyone seen one to confirm this?
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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 20:47
Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 20:47
Archive search on here will also keep you reading for about 3 days.
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Follow Up By: trevmari - Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 22:16
Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 22:16
okay. Thanks. Looks like a good trip.
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Reply By: Leroy - Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 20:53
Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 20:53
Not an uncommon event for a series2 3.0l unfortunately. I probably would have approached Nissan before changing the engine as they may be less inclined to compensate you now. Do a search for problems with the 3.0 on this
forum and it should supply you with enough info to point out to Nissan that it's a common problem. If it's any consolation you now have a better engine now as Nissan would of only rebuilt your old engine.
Leroy
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Follow Up By: trevmari - Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 22:19
Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 22:19
I did approach the local Nissan delaership but their advice was since it was out of warranty the course of action planned (to replace the engine) was what they recommended. Not in writing of course. Can't manage without a vehicle where we live so was in a hurry and did the change over in 7 days.
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Follow Up By: goingplatinumcomau - Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 00:07
Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 00:07
Hi Trevmari
What did Nissan quote you for a new motor or fix the existing one >???
Where you are what is the overall opinion of the Nissan 3 liter diesel
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 07:35
Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 07:35
The local Nissan dealer can't do much for you. You need to chat to customer relations in Melb.
Leroy
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Follow Up By: trevmari - Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 08:43
Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 08:43
The local dealer didn't give a quote on fixing the engine, only the price of a new one. That was $14.5k plus GST plus labour plus there wasn't one available in Australia.
Nissan
Melbourne is who I have taken the claim up with plus a range of questions which they have pointedly ignored in their response.
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 16:39
Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 16:39
apparently a new short motor is now $6.5k so I don't know how they could quote $14.5k. That price was posted here recently.
Leroy
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Reply By: goingplatinumcomau - Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 22:18
Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 22:18
Hi Trevmari
What did the new motor from the wrecker's cost ?
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Follow Up By: trevmari - Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 22:21
Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 22:21
paid about 8.5 with exchange and 6 months warranty. A bit stiffer than normal it seems but the replacement was pretty new.
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Follow Up By: David from David and Justine Olsen's 4WD Tag-Along - Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 06:44
Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 06:44
I am gathring data about these engines, would you mind filling in my survey and returning to me at admin(at)djolsen.com
Survey is at
http://www.djolsen.com/nissanpatrolsurvey.doc
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Reply By: trevmari - Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 08:44
Thursday, Mar 29, 2007 at 08:44
okay. Will go to your site soon.
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