Barn Doors on Cruisers
Submitted: Monday, Jan 08, 2007 at 14:56
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Kev M (NSW)
In my quest for a new fourby I have come across a lot of ex government 100S Cruisers that have
Barn doors on the rear instead of the traditional Cruiser set up.
My question is how do you strenghten the door to prevent them failing at the hinges.
I've driven heaps of them at work along lots of corrugations and the doors practically shake to bits.
With some of the additional items ie ARB Bull Bar and winch, roof rack,
snorkel etc on the ex government cruisers I am contemplating buying one if I can overcome the suspect rear doors.
Cheers Kev
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Reply By: Crackles - Monday, Jan 08, 2007 at 17:03
Monday, Jan 08, 2007 at 17:03
The 105 series
barn doors shaking to bits is not an issue I've heard before Kev, although with wear it is common to get an annoying squeak now & again which can normally be adjusted out. The old troopys & Defenders with the spare tyre on the door on the other hand had problems with tearing the outer skin off.
Cheers Craig...........
HZJ105
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Reply By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Monday, Jan 08, 2007 at 17:47
Monday, Jan 08, 2007 at 17:47
Gday Kev
I think the best bet is to buy new hinges, I think most of the wear and sag is in the hinge pin. From what I have seen, the Cruisers sag a bit more than the Patrols, but they open past 90 degrees which may be a bit weaker, but it gives you far better access. The other thing the nissans have that I don't think the cruisers have is a support for the larger of the doors, which would help stop the sag
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Follow Up By: Trevor R (QLD) - Monday, Jan 08, 2007 at 18:22
Monday, Jan 08, 2007 at 18:22
Andrew,
ARB sell a hinge for the Nissan that opens the small door to 90 degrees. If you really want the Nissan door to be like the Cruiser door. Hope it is useful info for somebody.
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Follow Up By: Kev M (NSW) - Monday, Jan 08, 2007 at 18:31
Monday, Jan 08, 2007 at 18:31
Thanks Andrew,
I just wish that they would copy Nissan and build better
barn doors in general. A support for the larger door would be a bonus and definately stronger hinges.
If I'm lucky I'll find an ex government one with the traditional doors.
Kev
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Follow Up By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Tuesday, Jan 09, 2007 at 08:15
Tuesday, Jan 09, 2007 at 08:15
Gday Trevor and Kev - I would like the doors to open more than the 90 degrees they currently do, but in my previous life as a carpentor I noticed that the 180 deg hinges on cabinets etc always are the first to sag and go out of alignment, even though they are far more expensive and look to be heavier duty than the std 110 degree jobbies. I will put up with dors that only open 90 degrees but open properly, the only trouble I have is if I have been in and out of a 100 series at work, then go
home and open the door on the Nissan and walk into it because it didn't open as far.
I generally prefer the
barn door set up to the tailgate/lift up window arangement in most day to day life, but tailgates are great seats, tables, things to stand on while accessing the roof rack etc so at times I wish I had the tailgate....
Cheers Andrew
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Reply By: Mikee5 (QLD) - Monday, Jan 08, 2007 at 20:53
Monday, Jan 08, 2007 at 20:53
Hi Kev,
Unless I am wrong, the
barn doors are only fitted to the 'standard' landcruisers, which have non turbo 1HZ engines live axles and manual trans. Drop tailgates come on the GXL which come with many combinations of engine/gearbox and IFS.
The back doors on my standard do not rattle or squeak.
Mike.
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Follow Up By: Member - Shane D (QLD) - Monday, Jan 08, 2007 at 20:58
Monday, Jan 08, 2007 at 20:58
your right! only base models have
barn doors
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Follow Up By: Kev M (NSW) - Monday, Jan 08, 2007 at 21:19
Monday, Jan 08, 2007 at 21:19
So if I can get hold of one for the right price, I'll have a better base to modify in regards to
suspension in comparison to the IFS models just for general touring not
rock hopping etc.
I am already thinking of throwing a turbo under the bonnet as
well as dual wheel carrier and long range second fuel tank.
What is an accepted
suspension upgrade, I was thinking 2 - 3" at the most. What's your opinions.
Cheers Kev
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Jan 08, 2007 at 22:04
Monday, Jan 08, 2007 at 22:04
Mike,
You can get a GXL with rigid front end and 1Hz motor, and fold down tailgate. Soon to be a thing of the past though!
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Follow Up By: big fella - Tuesday, Jan 09, 2007 at 10:23
Tuesday, Jan 09, 2007 at 10:23
Hi to Phil G this has nothing to do with the topic but i was wondering how the silent armours are going as i am considering buying a set
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Reply By: stevesub - Tuesday, Jan 09, 2007 at 08:45
Tuesday, Jan 09, 2007 at 08:45
We have a 2000 78 series Troopy with the
barn doors, spare wheel attached to the door, etc. Done 220.000km and a lot of that has been rough roads but no problems at all to date. No rattles from the doors and no sign of any sag at the hinges or problems with the spare. Pity about the rear window washer that packed up 2 years ago but we live without it.
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Reply By: Mikee5 (QLD) - Tuesday, Jan 09, 2007 at 10:39
Tuesday, Jan 09, 2007 at 10:39
Hi Kev,
In my research I found that only TJM would state that their dual wheel carrier would fit the
barn doors. ARB and Kaymar said that the RHS will fit but not the LHS because of the door handle. I bought and fitted the TJM and am happy with it.
Mike.
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Follow Up By: Kev M (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 09, 2007 at 10:55
Tuesday, Jan 09, 2007 at 10:55
Mike,
I haven't fully researched the rear wheel carrier but did you try Opposite Lock?
They fitted a dual wheel carrier to the Camel 100S from 4WD Monthly and from memory it had
barn doors (correct me if I'm wrong).
I am looking a the 02 - 05 models in manual if possible.
Cheers Kev
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Reply By: Mikee5 (QLD) - Thursday, Jan 11, 2007 at 09:33
Thursday, Jan 11, 2007 at 09:33
Kev,
because you asked a direct question I will answer. I rang Opposite lock with a query. I spoke to a guy who took all my details and undertook to ring me back with an answer. Still waiting a month later. The amount of money I am spending I refuse to be treated like this so Opposite Lock is off my list!
Mike.
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