Prado Handbrake
Submitted: Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 13:06
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DOBBO60
I recently read a post regarding adjusting the handbrake on a 90 series Prado, and was wondering if the procedure was the same for a V6 120 series, as my handbrake now pulls up about 10-12 clicks.The car has only done 22000kms , and I haven't taken it in for the 20000 service as i've done most of it myself.
I also notice with the car that there is a noticable ticking noise, similar to an exhaust leak or a rattly tappet in the motor, but when I took it to the local Toyota dealer to have a look at, they described the noise exactly and stated that it was due to the extractors making the noise and that it was a common complaint amongst owners. Is this correct? The car runs faultlessly, but it's damm annoying, especially when drivng with the windows down and up against a concrete barrier or
rock face roadway when it's more noticable.
Dobbo60
Reply By: Member - Tour Boy- Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 14:21
Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 14:21
I remember a couple of years ago about the jackaroo exhaust making a similar noise that turned out to be a factory restriction in the system coming loose or somthing if I remember correctly.
I think the handbrake is the same setup
Tour Boy
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Reply By: Gerhardp1 - Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 14:48
Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 14:48
You will need to get underneath and
check how the cable(s) are adjusted.
It will likely be a couple of 13/14mm nuts and a threaded rod. Should be simple.
The handbrake will require adjustment because of rear pad wear and stretching of the cables.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 16:00
Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 16:00
Gerhard, shame on you!!! The pads need to be adjusted at the drum by removing the rear wheels. Adjusting the cable doesn't work.
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Follow Up By: Gerhardp1 - Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 16:08
Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 16:08
I guess life's a bit more simple on the Jack - 2 nuts only.:)
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 18:29
Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 18:29
Hi Gerhard, I'm not sure about the setup on your Jack,
But all the recent Toyotas have a separate drum brake thats located inside the rear discs. So the handbrake has its own shoes, that need to be adjusted manually.
Cheers
Phil
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Follow Up By: Gerhardp1 - Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 18:41
Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 18:41
I thought I'd better
check what I've actually got, and the Jack does have a drum and shoes. Adjustment done by a screw.
Really shot myself in the foot there !
The jack doesn't need brake work, but I spotted some racing rotors (drilled and slotted versus the standard plain) on E-bay the other day for $100 also including rear calipers and new rear pads, so I couldn't resist. Picked them up today, just down the road.
Up till now I have just been adjusting the handbrake cable, so when I put the new rotors & pads in I can do it properly. :)
Hoping for a little more "bite".
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Reply By: nowimnumberone - Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 14:59
Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 14:59
yes adjustment is the same
wind the adjusters up tight
loosen 10mm nut behind backing plate and screw the rod with the black knob on the end in untill it hits the backing plate and tighten nut
loosen the adjusters 3 clicks
then adjust slack in cable
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 16:06
Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 16:06
Heres your noise:
http://www.lcool.org/technical/120_series/exhaust/manifold_noise.html
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Follow Up By: Member - Tour Boy- Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 19:10
Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 19:10
I thought it was somthing like that.. Would extractors fix it?
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Follow Up By: DOBBO60 - Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 19:48
Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 19:48
Phil, had a look at that site this afternoon, seems the dealer was telling me the truth. Guess I'm getting a bit wary of dealers in my old age, stemming from my experiences of owning a Frontera and catching out the dealer I bought it from, charging me for things they didn't do, and then the incompetence the local dealer who handled a few warranty issues with it.
Thanks for the response.
Dobbo
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 19:49
Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 19:49
TB,
Haven't heard of anyone who's fitted extractors on the petrol 120 series.
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Reply By: Member - Mike_L (SA) - Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 19:14
Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 19:14
Dobbo60,
With only 22000km it is unlikely you have any wear with the park brake pads (drum in disc style as mentioned by others.) unless you've driven with the park brake on that's is! These pads in most cases last the life of the car (ie our VS commodore's are as new with 2250000 k's on it.
Prado cables stretch a bit from new (ours adjusted twice in first 15000 km)
Adjustment is in cabin (not under vehicle) you need to remove console trim around hand brake lever and you will see the adjustment rod and nut at the base of the hand brake lever assembly. 6-8 clicks is the specified adjustment.
If you run into trouble I can email you the relevant PDF from the service manual.
Mick
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Follow Up By: DOBBO60 - Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 19:38
Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 19:38
Mick, just went out and had a look now, but unless you're a gynocologist with a keen eye, I can't see how to get to it. I suspect that the cable has stretched a little since new . Could you email me the details from the service manual?
My email address is pdavey@unwired.com.au.
cheers,
Dobbo.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 19:57
Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 19:57
Dobbo,
Make sure you always adjust the pads at the rear wheels first, before adjusting cable length at the lever. And make sure you don't confuse the "clicks" - you back off 3-4 clicks at each wheel; but like Mick says, its 6-7 clicks at the lever when you pull it on.
After 20k, I think you'll find a pad adjustment at the rear wheels will have it fixed. I used to find that 20k adjustments where necessary to keep the Prado handbrakes working
well.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike_L (SA) - Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 20:04
Tuesday, Dec 12, 2006 at 20:04
Dobbo,
I have Emailed the PDF files you require. I hope they are of some help. Let me know if I missed any pages you might need.
Mick.
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