viscous fans
Submitted: Friday, Mar 21, 2003 at 14:08
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not really a question but ive been pricing arouond for new viscous fans after reading about truckster sending his to berima looks like i can get brand new ones to suit most popular 4wd (landcruiser/patrol) for about $130 there are not chineese ones but graig davies(i think thats the name)if i buy about 10 or so so was just interested to know if this is cheap and if any one would be interested.
Reply By: Truckster - Friday, Mar 21, 2003 at 15:10
Friday, Mar 21, 2003 at 15:10
Not sure if it was these Davis Craig ones, but there is a cheaper after market one for TD42 Nissan motor, but they regularly gets 12-18 months life in total...
This was pointed out by Technical officer at the club.. and the bloke at the local Nissan dealer(
yea hes tryin to sell nissan ones, but george actually is honest!)
Shame really, but if your short on coin, it would have to be an option.
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Follow Up By: GaryInOz - Friday, Mar 21, 2003 at 15:56
Friday, Mar 21, 2003 at 15:56
Or go electric???
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Follow Up By: stephenjNQ - Friday, Mar 21, 2003 at 16:35
Friday, Mar 21, 2003 at 16:35
garyinoz,electiric if you stay on black top,but if you go off road mud ,dust, water. will kill electric fans that quick .
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Follow Up By: Truckster - Friday, Mar 21, 2003 at 17:39
Friday, Mar 21, 2003 at 17:39
stephenjNQ hit it on the head.
Elec Themo fans
rock on the road, but once in dirt n stuff die a fast and painful for you death!
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Reply By: Gerry - Friday, Mar 21, 2003 at 17:01
Friday, Mar 21, 2003 at 17:01
I went to buy a Davis Craig (I think that's how it goes) from a local parts supplier about a year back and he refused to sell me one as apparently all of the ones he had sold for the Patrol were returned within a month. Apparently he sells them for Holdens, Fords and other cars with no returns but the Patrol ones were a real problem. A talk with a radiator repair mob confirmed the same problem at the time. Going electric - you need 2 rather large fans and will cost more than a replacement clutch. I ended up adapting a secondhand one from a Falcon for $50 and haven't had a problem since.
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Reply By: Hendo - Friday, Mar 21, 2003 at 18:05
Friday, Mar 21, 2003 at 18:05
Gents (and others)
Reference earlier posts on this topic. For a GQ diesel, unfortunately the only solution is the factory original. Price very high (over $400) but there is no substitute. Since I bit the bullet (after two cheaper alternatives, which in total cost more than if I'd bit the bullet earlier) the cooling has been much better. It is a GQ diesel with aftermarket turbo, and until I went back to factory, it constantly ran VERY hot. Now, the fan _Affordable_Storage_Drawers.aspx in sufficient air to actually have some effect. It really locks in and you can watch the gauge pull down. Make sure it is the correct one for diesel or petrol, however. For some reason, the aftermarket clutches just can't hack it, or last (vibrations??)
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Reply By: joc45 - Friday, Mar 21, 2003 at 19:08
Friday, Mar 21, 2003 at 19:08
I got about 5 years out of the original one on the GQ Nissan, followed by about the same for a Davis Craig one. The Nissan one locked up, the DC one freed up. Neither fell apart. Replaced again with a DC and it was still fine after 2 years when I sold the GQ. Nissan cost at the time was about $360, DC was about $110. One could afford to keep a spare DC just in case.
Gerry
Previous comments now make me ask - where should the temp guage sit on a GU TD?
Mine has sat just above half way since new, whereas the old GQ sat about 1/4. Is this about right for the GU?
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Follow Up By: andpancho - Friday, Mar 21, 2003 at 23:03
Friday, Mar 21, 2003 at 23:03
Have done 17000k since purchasing 3.0l GU auto new 3 months ago. Temp guage sits about 1/3. Rarely moves at all once warmed up.
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Follow Up By: Truckster - Saturday, Mar 22, 2003 at 20:04
Saturday, Mar 22, 2003 at 20:04
Id be worried if
mine sat above 1/2 from new... I would have thought above 1/2 once it starts getting hot... Could be wrong though...
My GQ TD42 before the aftermarket turbo never went above 1/4 - 1/3rd until the problems really started... That was before the Turbo went on the problem started... Now .. :(
groups.yahoo.com/group/patrol4wd
would be a good place to ask.
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Follow Up By: diamond - Saturday, Mar 22, 2003 at 21:52
Saturday, Mar 22, 2003 at 21:52
its really simple to tell if yopur cars getting hot all cars have a temp gauge on the dash now most 9 not being smart but they wouldnt put normal if it wasnt)
are set with hot at the top and cold at the bottom with a bit saying normal between both top and bottom a lot of people worry if there car is getting up towards the high mark but it is still in the normal temp range i can run the air con tow a van and car runs at over 3 quarters but its in the normal range so why worry about it if the gauge didnt say normal then you would worry about it seen heaps of people saying my car is running just over half way is there something wrong no thers not if there was the overheating part of yopur temp gauge would be at the half may mark wouldnt it soory if i didnt help
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Follow Up By: Truckster - Saturday, Mar 22, 2003 at 22:51
Saturday, Mar 22, 2003 at 22:51
problem being how do you know the gauge is working in the first place!!
I have a VDO gauge in a Dash pod with boost gauge and others .. looks the bleep too!
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Follow Up By: diamond - Saturday, Mar 22, 2003 at 22:59
Saturday, Mar 22, 2003 at 22:59
well were talking late model here so chances of not working really is high same could be said for after market gauges how do you know if there working. was just saying that anything even up towards high spot is normal
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Follow Up By: Truckster - Saturday, Mar 22, 2003 at 23:22
Saturday, Mar 22, 2003 at 23:22
IMHO anything mass produced can be faulty... EG Speedos and dash gauges.
VDO guage you can have calibrated for $15! Which I did thru a mates work.
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Follow Up By: joc45 - Sunday, Mar 23, 2003 at 00:55
Sunday, Mar 23, 2003 at 00:55
Slight correction. The GU is a 4.2 turbo, and the guage sits just under 1/2 (not over as earlier stated). Which is a lot more than the old GQ. It gets up to temp a lot quicker than the old GQ. But it never shifts from there, regardless of conditons.
I guess the question is: other GU 4.2TD owners - what does your guage normally run at?
Gerry
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Reply By: diamond - Saturday, Mar 22, 2003 at 19:43
Saturday, Mar 22, 2003 at 19:43
ok looks like maybe not a good idea lol.bye the way ive got a 3ltr gq with 340000ks and
mine still working good.
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Reply By: David - Sunday, Mar 23, 2003 at 12:45
Sunday, Mar 23, 2003 at 12:45
Gotta agree with truckster here- factory gauges are not calibrated to be accurate. Individual gauges might be consistent, but Not accurate.
VDO on the other hand are among the best.
The main point here is you can't compare factory gauges very
well on two different cars- use a good aftermarket gauge if you really want to know what temperature you are running- in degrees- rather than just in the "normal range".
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