Prado on fire - CLEAR any SPINIFEX!!!!
Submitted: Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 18:29
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Member - Omaroo (NSW)
I found these on another
forum today. They're recent I believe. Teaches everyone a lesson - clear out that spinifex before this happens....
Reply By: Member - Brian H (QLD) - Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 08:45
Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 08:45
I have not looked at a prado or underneath one, just wondering as both seem to have stated left rear area does the exhaust have a heat shield over the muffler in that area and is it close to the brakes. How much room is there between the manifold and the body of the vehicle. Are you able to have long range tanks in these and if so are they in the rear where I guess the spare tyre go under the vehicle if so a build here near the exhaust pay also be a factor.
I am only guessing as I have not seen one but may be something to look at. Makes my 15L pressure sprayer I take a worth while investment I guess.
Feel sorry for the people involved.
Brian
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Follow Up By: Member - John R (NSW) - Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 10:30
Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 10:30
Gidday Brian,
It's too wet today (never thought I'd say that again!) to go for a look-see, but the Prado already has long range tanks (~180L). The exhaust on the diesel is on the RHS but I'm not sure where it actually goes without looking underneath. Spare is on the back door.
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Reply By: Member - Rotord - Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 10:06
Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 10:06
The big problem here was probably , as Omaroo hinted , a small fire next to a magnesium wheel . They make the flint and scrape fire starters out of magnesium because magnesium is easy to lite and burns super hot . The next problem is that to approach the wheel to put out the small fire is extremely dangerous . The airforce procedure with hot brakes next to a magnesium wheel is to approach from forward or aft , set up a mist spray and clear the area for 20 minutes . The airforce got rid of mag wheels on the early Hercules because of the fire
hazard and because the were prone to cracking anyway . As mentioned elsewhere on this
forum , alloy wheels aren't as good as steel wheels in the bush .
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Follow Up By: awill4x4 - Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 13:14
Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 13:14
Rotord, they are called "Mag" wheels because in the early days they were made out of magnesium. All new wheels now are aluminium alloy except for race cars which are chasing the weight savings so are not a problem regarding a fire.
I know on some of the current crop of new diesel engines they are using a catalytic convertor the same as the petrol engines do. These do run at high temps and I wonder if the Prado has one and if it does was it a possible ignition point.
Regards Andrew.
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Follow Up By: brett - Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 21:30
Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 21:30
Does seem strange the wheels have vanished. As said before they're not magnesium but an aluminium alloy, the bullbar which is also an aluminium alloy is still intact, also the link to the other fire shows the wheels, so if they didn't burn in that fire why did they in this one, also no sign of any steel belts either. Something doesn't seem right
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Follow Up By: nonon - Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 at 01:34
Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 at 01:34
Brett. The link to willems page shows a standard Prado [steel wheels] and the one at the top of this page is the GXL [alloy rims]
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Reply By: Member - Brian H (QLD) - Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 at 09:26
Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 at 09:26
Pleased to say i'm very glad it's not
mine :) I will say a few things are interesting in phot'o 1 it looks like 3 doors are open however in photos 4 and 5 all doors are closed. In photo 1 & 2 headlights not on but they are on in photo 4 (ghosts). The rear door was closed at the start and open in photo 6 & 7 although I feel this may have been opened after the fire.
If you look at the left and bottom of photo number 7 that silver shaped stuff is most likely whats left of that wheel (mag) and it looks like there is some on the right hand side as
well, why there is no wire from the tyres is interesting. The intenity of the fire in number 4 bottom left and number 6 both left and right front seems to indicate the wheels and tyres were on.
Photo's 3 & 4 indicate a fair breeze so this most likely saved the bullbar from being a pool of alloy.
Anyway just my 2 cents worth.
Brian
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Follow Up By: Member - John R (NSW) - Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 at 10:57
Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 at 10:57
Brian I suspect that the steel belts (if there were any to begin with) would have been vapourised by the heat of the wheels burning. Aluminium alloy burns pretty hot...
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