GU Patrol Front Wheel Bearings

Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 08, 2006 at 09:45
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Hi all,
Just after some info. (did a search but there was a zillion things with "wheel" & 'front" etc.)
I had the front wheel bearings repacked a few months ago, mechanic said not to do the bearing nut up too tight. I was rotating the tyres on the weekend and noticed there was play in both front wheels. (Grab hold of the wheel top & bottom and give a shake.) Should there be movement or not? The Gregorys manual I have says to do up to 5 Nm, undo and then re-do to 3 Nm. Comments?

Thanks
Rob
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Aug 08, 2006 at 09:56

Tuesday, Aug 08, 2006 at 09:56
Its the same as a car. You shouldnt really have play as you mention side to side.

The wheel should rotate without any thing holding it back, or your bearings are too tight.

On the Gregories manuals, since i found out that one had wrong capacities for oils, I wont believe anything they say.
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Follow Up By: 3.0turbob - Tuesday, Aug 08, 2006 at 12:24

Tuesday, Aug 08, 2006 at 12:24
Thanks Truckster,
I always refer to the Vehicle Manufacturers hand book for oil and capacities, so far the Gregorys seems to be in line with that.

Rob
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Reply By: Member - Sam (NSW) - Tuesday, Aug 08, 2006 at 11:01

Tuesday, Aug 08, 2006 at 11:01
as they are a tapered bearing, sometimes when you seat them and tighten up the nut, they appear to be seated correctly and there isn't any free play.

However once the vehicle starts moving, the bearings seat themselves properly, resulting in there being some free play.

this could be the problem.
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Follow Up By: 3.0turbob - Tuesday, Aug 08, 2006 at 12:25

Tuesday, Aug 08, 2006 at 12:25
Thanks Sam,
I'll keep that in mind
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Reply By: Notso - Tuesday, Aug 08, 2006 at 12:03

Tuesday, Aug 08, 2006 at 12:03
An interesting little side light on this is that the bearing lock washer has two phillips head bolts in it to hold the bearing lock washer. Mine have vibrated loose and dropped out on one occasion, this allows the bearing lock washer and nut to come loose.

My gregories gives the isntructions to tighten the lock nut to 167 to 196 Newton Metres then rotate the hub several times, then loosen locknut so that it can be turned by hand, then tighten to 3 to 5 Nm and rotate the hub several times in both directions then re tighten to 3 to 5 Nm. Then istall the lock washer and retaining screws.
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Follow Up By: 3.0turbob - Tuesday, Aug 08, 2006 at 12:27

Tuesday, Aug 08, 2006 at 12:27
I intend checking them this weekend, refering to the manual. Maybe a touch of loctite to hold the screws in place.

Rob
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Follow Up By: Notso - Tuesday, Aug 08, 2006 at 14:04

Tuesday, Aug 08, 2006 at 14:04
Yep, that's what should happen, all up I've had em work loose twice. I reckon a couple of Hex head bolts would be better, you could get a bit more purchase on them for tightening.

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Reply By: srowlandson - Tuesday, Aug 08, 2006 at 12:26

Tuesday, Aug 08, 2006 at 12:26
same happened to my 2000 GU ZD30...

I had the hubs off as my GU's front wheels worked loose and shagged the studs. After it was FIXED, i drove about 80km down the road to find both front wheels where loose again, except it was caused by the lock nut being loose. Tightened it up and away i went.

I'd always check it a few km's after driving to ensure it is still A OK...
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Reply By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Tuesday, Aug 08, 2006 at 13:42

Tuesday, Aug 08, 2006 at 13:42
If you preload them properly when reassembling and then by the time you do load em a bit more by lining the screw holes up,,, you should have no "clonk clonk clonk" at all whilst testing them by hand...
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