Installation of UHF in GU Patrol - Suggestions.

Submitted: Saturday, Aug 05, 2006 at 22:50
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Seeking some advice as to the best location inside my GU Patrol to mount/install a detachable head UHF radio such as GME model. Also my bullbar does not have a mounting tag for an aerial. I have seen them mounted on pass/side front corner of the bullbar between the indicator and the headlight protection bar where it joins the top of the bull bar. Will this position have any detrimental effects to the aerial performance opposed to being mounted up above the bar on a welded tag?
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Reply By: SteveL - Saturday, Aug 05, 2006 at 23:05

Saturday, Aug 05, 2006 at 23:05
The higher you mount the aerial the better it will perform. You won't be getting a very good signal behind you with the aerial mounted at bumper height. I would be getting a tag welded on the bar, and mounting an elevated feed ground independent aerial such as a GME. -Steve
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Reply By: joc45 - Saturday, Aug 05, 2006 at 23:27

Saturday, Aug 05, 2006 at 23:27
I've mounted the head of my GME 3400 where the ashtray sits. I removed the ashtray, fitted a dummy panel and mounted the UHF head there. The main part of the UHF sits under the passenger's seat. A speaker is mounted under the dash. If the unit is later removed, I just put the ashtray back and no holes are evident anywhere.
Re antenna, if you are only using it for convoy work, where range of only a couple of kms is required, then you can get away with the antenna mounted wherever you like. I just use a 3db whip on the bull bar and it works fine for my needs. If you want range, then a 6db or 9db whip, pref on the roof, with, say, a mag base. Also remember that the longer the coax cable, the more the losses.
Gerry
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Reply By: Muzzgit (WA) - Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 02:03

Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 02:03
Another option is to mount the main unit to the back of the centre console where the ashtray is and mount the remote head on the side of the console near the gear lever.
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Reply By: howie - Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 02:22

Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 02:22
if your patrol is without passenger airbag, you can remove the panel, after the glovebox is temp removed to access screws. this area can be used to mount the main body. i have had the remote head fitted at the bottom of the dash, under the heater controls, with solastic for several years.
there is a kit for converting the airbag space.
a search of the archives might reveal the makers.
cheers howie.
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Follow Up By: EBAF - Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 12:35

Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 12:35
Howie,
No, I don't have an airbag fitted. When you say a kit for converting that space are you able to elaborate. Sounds like a great idea. I've always thought that there was a huge waste of space above the glove box and often thought the area could be better utilised for storage i.e 2nd glove box etc. Is the kit eadily available as an after market item. can't say I've ever seen one but would love to know more.
Your advice and all other responses is much appreciated.
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EBAF.
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 17:24

Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 17:24
EBAF and howie. I have dressed my bigger glove box up a bit more since these shots were taken with some coloured paint to suit. Just over $130 worth of materials converted it with an aluminium shaped liner in place. The lock is now coloured and the stainless hinge too. I think my glovebox is less visible than a lot of pictures I have seen with screw covers across the bottom



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Follow Up By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 08:36

Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 08:36
Very good concept and nice job John - I hope to have time to do this one day in mine. I wonder if any of the console/pod makers will come up with a kit. The origional glovebox in the GU is a bit on the small side....great side pockets in the doors though.

Cheers Andrew
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 09:05

Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 09:05
Andrew, one of them has a kit but has a tab to close and velcro to hold it at about $220 I think, I thought it expensive and not as neat as mine with the exposed plasticscrew covers.

The side pockets aren't particularly secure as things are easily seen when you open the doors. Glad you said the original box is small, I would have used a different tag, perhaps miniscule.
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Follow Up By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 09:10

Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 09:10
Yes yours does look very neat and from your description a better proposition that the bought one (there is a saying something like that...) I am lucky enough not to have to worry about security most of the time, and usually only use the door pockets for magazines etc. There are a few more choice words to describe the OE glovebox. Size matters a bit - but where is the */*-+@#$!n lock! I would use the lock more as childproofing than security, but is required for both.

Cheers Andrew
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Reply By: Member. Rob M (QLD) - Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 07:51

Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 07:51
I used a dash pod, available from most 4WD shops, try consoles.com.au. GME sell clamp on aerial mounts for your bullbar so that you do not have to weld one on.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 10:40

Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 10:40
Take the opportunity to replace the crap radio with an MP3 player, single din, then place the UHF on the dash below that.

As for ariel, get a tab welded to the bar, and never have to worry again.
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Follow Up By: EBAF - Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 12:40

Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 12:40
Truckster,
I like the idea of the welded tag - something more permanent. I'm leaning toward this method rather than a bolt on bracket.
The replacement radio sounds good but must watch the budget. I have the support from the minister of love and finance for the UHF....don't want to push my luck.
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EBAF.
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Follow Up By: Chris & Jody (Golden Bay) - Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 13:58

Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 13:58
Truckster,

I'm with you. I am just going through the process of a new MP3 CD player being fitted in replacement of the GU player and the GME 4400 sits in the blank below.
I've used the bolt on stainless tab for the aerial. Works well.

Cheers,
Chris
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 21:48

Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 21:48
the Mp3 player I just bought is a Sony MEX R 1- $360 new from JB.. well worth it, it plays DVD's as well, add a screen in the back and the kids can watch a movie, and you can listen to radio
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Reply By: Pratty - Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 11:04

Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 11:04
Currently have the same problem of where to fit the uhf to a GU4 patrol.

Did not really want to drill holes if I can help it, so was looking at installing the body under one of the seats and the head on the console just in front of the gear stick (probably held in place with double sided tape).

However saw one yesterday with the head mounted just under the heater controls (which would involve drilling some holes), but it looked very neat. Not looking at getting rid of the car any time soon anyway so what is a few little holes (it just hurts to start drilling holes into a 3 month old car and the missus will kill me).
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 11:28

Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 11:28
happy with the dash pod personally.

No holes, everything right infront of you, dont have to take eyes off track to find mic or change channels.

You can also drill into it to mount GPS bracket like my GQ, also use for boost and EGT gauges

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Reply By: Dave from P7OFFROAD Accredited Driver Training - Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 13:41

Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 13:41
I put my Icom in an over head console...

I wish now, however, that I had replaced the stereo with a half decent MP3 jobbie with the money I spent on the console and put the Icom in a DIN mount in the dash.

I also have one of the 'false' units. after living with it for 6 months I believe that they are a great idea, but I could have done a better job myself.

Good luck with it
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Reply By: Member - nrb1748 (VIC) - Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 14:00

Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 14:00
EBAF,

The 'main box' for my 3400 GME Electophone is mounted in the cavity below the ash tray in the rear seat. Completely out of site.

If you remove the rear seat ash tray and have a look below inside the cavity, you will see where I am referring to. By removing 4 screws the panel comes off. The bracket for the radio is mounted against the back of the centre console bin.

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Reply By: Chaz - Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 23:43

Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 23:43
Hi EBAF,
If you haven't already got your radio, then consider a comercial radio like the Motorola Syntrx. It has all the controls on the mike, so you only have to mount the mike onto your dash and the rest goes under the seat, or like mine, on the cargo barrier. Also the Syntrx can be programmed for almost any UHF frequencies and is 25 watts. They usually sell on ebay for around $150, but go for the "Plus" model with scan and duplex features.

Chaz
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Reply By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 08:00

Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 08:00
TX3400 GME with the remote head....
Mount the head at the bottom of the middle of the dash where the underhang touches the centre console....
Two little screws can easily hide under there with the main part of the unit cable tied under the dash because it weighs nothing it can be tied around a big loom...
How easy is that?.....
When it is taken out you would see no evidence of anything...
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Reply By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 08:33

Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 08:33
Just a thought, marine systems have a vhf/amfm radio in the one - I think someone should go about inventing one of these for uhf - huge market out there, unobtrusive, fits in all vehicles std cavity etc etc. One may already exist, but I haven't seen it. (someone will go and make one now and make squillions, 1 in most trucks and 4wds in the world, what a market!)

Cheers Andrew
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Reply By: JamieMac - Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 09:15

Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 09:15
Another option is where I have mounted my UHF above the overhead console with the controller at the back of the console. The main unit is basically above the sunglass holder between it and the mirror.

The mic bracket is on the side of the controller with the lead looped around the rear view mirror. I can usually speak into the mic with it on the bracket.

Its out of the way easy to use and has minimum holes. originally it a quick fit when i bought the radio on holiday to Perth but it has become a permanant setup as I now dont need to buy another console.

JamieMac
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Reply By: Grizzle - Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 09:56

Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 09:56
I put my remote head GME under the driver seat for the main unit and velcro'd the head unit under the overhead console where the reading lghts are. I fixed the microphone holder into the head lining and wrapped the cord around the mirror. This did not interfere with rear vision.

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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 09:57

Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 09:57
What happens when you go thru a river and something goes wrong? 1 fubar radio.
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Follow Up By: Grizzle - Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 11:03

Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 11:03
It's not a boat, it's a car!!!!!!

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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 11:04

Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 11:04
You dont go through rivers ever?
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Follow Up By: Grizzle - Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 11:26

Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 11:26
not that deep. also I have just sold that car (TI Patrol) and bought a 4.2 St-S with overhead console so it's not an issue now. I never had a problem with the other setup. There was nowhere to put it on the TI.

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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 13:53

Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 13:53
The chance would be nice. We only have one bloody river over here (The Murray) and ya don't try to cross that except by using a bridge or a ferry!!! hahahaha

I have been through rivers in other states and so far I've never managed to get any water into the cabin. If I ever DID get water into the cabin, I would imagine there would be about a squillion other things I'd be more worried about than the bloody UHF (cheapish to replace).....A new pair of clean undies would be pretty high on the list of priorities!!!! hahaha
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Follow Up By: Grizzle - Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 14:06

Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 14:06
Fantastic River, we water ski at Mildura for 3 weeks in January and also go up to Tocumwal at least 1 weekend a month in the Summer. "I luvs the Murray"

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Reply By: Andrew from 4wheelingOZ Magazine - Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 10:15

Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 10:15
A few pics here:

Radio mounting in Patrols
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 10:32

Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 10:32
so did ya get the job?
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Follow Up By: EBAF - Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 11:21

Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 11:21
Andrew,

1st photo under the lip of the centre dash looks to be very neat and a great option. Thanks for the photo reference's. Nuthin beats actually seeing the thing insitu.

The response and advice on my project has been great. Thanks boys.

EBAF (Bris).
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