Cost of Diesel V's Petrol

It used to be cheaper.

But then we are told it is a priced/rarer commodity, and if isn't a northern hemisphere winter, China is going flat strap :-((.

I reckon they the refiners are just trying to get back some of the millions they spent on upgrading refineries for low sulphur (500ppm) and ultra low sulphur (50ppm).

The pollution particle size produced is a lot smaller so you can't see it, and you can absorb the particles more easily in the lungs.

But then we do get common rail diesels now, and better economy.

Oil company problem - How to lessen impact of rising prices on the majority of customers

Oil company solution - Don't pass on full cost rise to petrol and compensate by passing on more cost rise to diesel

Dont laff NUTS....
I have been thinking seriously about getting a road bike myself ( sorry i sold my brand new WR450F last year now). In fact, I think I will end up doing just that. Sure will save me heaps in fuel expenses too, Only use the old girl for trips cause fuel prices are not comming down .....so better get used to it guys.

It's an absolute rip off and a con, and now because of he price of diesel going up transport costs of just about everything are going up cos allthe trucks use diesel. Gas doesn't cop it so go figure.

In the last two days Diesel has jumped from $1.42 to $1.51.....IN TWO DAYS????

I found this comment on fuel company web site:
'Because retail demand for diesel is much lower than ULP it is not subject to the same competitive forces as ULP and retail prices tend to be more stable.'
But i fail to see how a 9c jump in two days is stable......

Anyway, I worked out the savings in paying for parking and fuel savings, if I loan $6000 to buy a bike and keep both cruiser and bike registered all year round, i will be breaking even.

There is no other answer to my problem that i could find...I need the 8 seater 80series to fit the kids in, so 4cyl dual cabs are out of the question, i looked at delicia but apparently they use 12 to 14L/100 anyway, the 80series uses 13-14L/100 and pulls the camper much more easily than a 2.8td. I wish i had the $$ to buy the new Pajero, good power and economy, im jealous Marquis....!

Anyway, motorbike it will be, even through the Canberra winter with -3 degree morning commute to work.

NUTS!

here bills.......here boy...cmon....

Leroy

Have heard that Australia sets the price for diesel from Indonesia, for some reason. Maybe thats where the supply chain comes from. As Indonesia doesn't use much diesel it is a more expensive commodity.

I wonder what the relative cost would be to unleaded if we got diesel from Europe where i think 50% of new passenger cars are diesels?

Don't want to get too political but the price of crude oil has skyrocketed since the 2003 invasion of Iraq. I know there are other factors such as China's and India's higher demand, but is it more than a coincidence about Iraq?

Whereas biofuels are better because they're renewable, there are the added complications of ground clearing, higher water usage and increased pesticide use that would be needed to grow the extra crops.

Until solar or salt water powered cars are freely available then the cost of transport will only continue to increase.

Barnesy

Price today in Sydney was between 1.42 and 1.50/L for diesel. Those servos with the discount coupons were the ones with the highest price. Luckily I had a 20c/L discount coupon but 112 Ltrs hurts.

I filled up for 39.7 this week. But lpg is no good they tell me.

Another group therapy thread.
Now, does everyone feel better.

As I have said in previous posts, re the onging increasing costs of fuel in this country,"let you pencil guide you when you tick the boxes at the next general election"!

Pricing parity has to be abolished!

Macca

A listener of radio 6PR (talkback in Perth) sent an email to the radio station this week. This guy works in Saudi and listens to 6PR on the net and said in his email that ULP went from.......

GET THIS........

From 36c/L to 29c/L

WHAT THE F...

From previous posts this is what was submitted re pricing -
Gary, the main reason for the increased gap between DIESEL and ULP is the recently introduced primary producers and transport DIESEL subsidy. To maintain profits when DIESEL has to be sold cheap to certain people, the price is bumped up for everyone else. The higher price for DIESEL makes even less sense when you consider that DIESEL needs almost no processing compared to ULP and is therefore much cheaper to produce.
AND
Alex, The rebate for primary producers and heavy transport industry does not come from the oil companies. It is a tax rebate from the government out of the taxes paid when the primary produces/transport industry paid for the fuel. The fuel is not being sold cheap to anyone!! DIESEL became more expensive because the greens think (oops - they never think!) DIESEL is a 'dirty' fuel, i.e. more polluting then ULP. We all know that is utter rubbish but a deal had to be done with the greens to get the legislation through parliment. Hence increase taxes (GST, excise, tax, levie, call it whatever - a tax is a tax). Blame the greens, but yes, I also think the oil companies are taking advantage of the situation to some extent but they are not the main culprit this time.
This is the reason guys. It happened around 2002, like the 3 cents for 3 years that Nick Greiner gave us. Now 10 years later is is still here!!

The fact is, the Multinational Fuel Companies have no real competition, apart from each other and I'm sure they all look after "their" industry.

The solution.....TAKE IT AWAY FROM THEM.

The real Primary Producers, the farmers, could produce, distribute and sell Bio-Diesel, (made from Canola oil, etc) cheaper than the rag-head backed Oil Companies, with all their excuses of International unrest for the continual rise in prices. We could have a new Industry that gives support to the Man on the Land.

And everyone would be driving diesel engined vehicles and we would have a renewable natural resource as a catalyst.

Well, it's a theory anyway.

On Sunshine Coast Qld the diesel is normally around 18 - 20 cents / litre more expensive..... and it hurts!

What gives me the craps is we are paying around $1.38 /L at the moment for diesel and for one day (if we are lucky) the unleaded hits close to the same price or a cent or two less and there is a great outcry from every mongrel driving a petrol vehicle....

I say to them "Get over it!" we have been paying the prices they cry about for a good 6 months to a year before they even hit it for one day and then the next day their fuel is discounted by 4 cents or 10 cents until by the middle of the next week there is a huge gap in prices again.....

The price of diesel only moves in one direction..... UP! $200 to fill the fourbie.

Sucks!