Running the Lap top
Submitted: Monday, Dec 26, 2005 at 17:07
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We are preparing for our first big trip in our new campomatic and I am wondering whether anyone can help us newbies with info re running our lap top whilst we are away. We are equipped with 2 x 105ah batteries & a generator and have been told that we need a pure sine wave inverter. Is it better to charge the lap top with the generator or plug into an inverter? I am finding the whole power thing quite confusing, please excuse my ignorance in this field. We need to access the internet for business reasons whilst away & will be quite remote at times. Any ideas on the best way to do this using our laptop?
Thanks
Reply By: slow mower - Monday, Dec 26, 2005 at 17:43
Monday, Dec 26, 2005 at 17:43
Howdy, from experience, I have found the cheapest, most efficient and least complicated method is to purchase a power supply to plug into car cig. lighter output. Readily available from Jaycar, Dick Smith etc. Make sure you match the voltage requirements of the laptop to the output of the power supply. Finally, make sure the polarity of the input plug (to the laptop) matches the correct polarity requirements as indicated. You'll probably cause terminal problems if it is not correct. Good luck.
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Reply By: OMN - Monday, Dec 26, 2005 at 18:11
Monday, Dec 26, 2005 at 18:11
Depending on the brand there is probably a specific power adaptor for your laptop. It might be a bit more than the ones in the post above but it will ensure your warranty is not void if anythign happens.
My computer is a DELL and i just purchased the 12 volt adapaptor from DELL. At $89 i thought it was expensive unitl i realised it replaced the existing 240 volt power supply as it runs off that, also runs off 12 volt and also has an adaptor so it can plug into aeroplanes with power, whcih some now have.
For me who travels on planes etc a lot and always carries a spare adptor it was very good value.
Mark
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Reply By: Nick R - Monday, Dec 26, 2005 at 19:38
Monday, Dec 26, 2005 at 19:38
Got a modified sine wave inverter on ebay for $74 delivered, seems to run the laptop fine, mean't i didn't need an adaptor, another phone charger and can do a number of other things now too if I wanted to, such as run an x-box......
What is the issue with Modified sine wave
inverters? I know the others are dearer and there is a difference, not sure what it is.....
NickR
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Follow Up By: Des Lexic - Monday, Dec 26, 2005 at 21:39
Monday, Dec 26, 2005 at 21:39
Nick,
I use a pure sine wave inverter as I am like you with things electronic. The reason for the pure sine type is that the signal is perfect (like a series of identical waves) and does not have the bigger peaks or troughs that the modified sine wave
inverters have. (Their waves have flat peaks and troughs) I am led to believe that the black inverter box on the power supply reduces the non even peaks etc bit. Just to be safe, I went the pure sine way.
Another way to look at it, one is a pure signal and the other is not.
Plenty of people run their lappy's on mod. sine invererters and have not had any troubles.
Hope I helped LOL
Cheers
Des.
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Reply By: Member - AdrianLR (VIC) - Monday, Dec 26, 2005 at 21:11
Monday, Dec 26, 2005 at 21:11
Most laptop supplies are electronic ("switchmode") rather than an older style transformer type. Some require a good sine wave AC supply to operate properly. In many cases, even if the supply works it will run hotter using a modified sine (rather than a pure sine) inverter. You are unlikely to do damage to the computer but the supply may suffer.
The most efficient method (power-wise) is as others have said is to use a 12v adapter. Apart from the obvious things to watch like voltage and polarity, some of the cheaper units will only supply 2A. This is still ok (I built my own 2A max supply) as long as you start with a charged laptop battery as 2A isn't enough to run and recharage a battery at the same time.
I've found the most efficient way to run the laptop wrt the camper batteries is to charge it whilst driving and then run it on its own batteries when stationary. With an inverter or a bigger 12v supply you could be drawing up to 4 or 5 amps so a couple of hours will have some impact.
Under no circumstances run it straight off the generator unless it supplies a
well filtered 240v output (only the expensive ones approach this).
Sorry about adding to the jargon - in many cases you can ignore it all and everything works!
Adrian
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Follow Up By: Mainey (WA) - Tuesday, Dec 27, 2005 at 10:54
Tuesday, Dec 27, 2005 at 10:54
As AdrianLR (VIC) has said.....
under no circumstances run it straight off the generator.....
......EVEN if it's a
well filtered 240v output
Get the manufacturers recomemended charger, after all it's your laptop and it will cost you money to replace, not forgetting the actual loss of information, due to just one heavy voltage spike which is sure to happen just after you start your trip :-(
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Reply By: samsgoneagain - Tuesday, Dec 27, 2005 at 19:54
Tuesday, Dec 27, 2005 at 19:54
get JAYCARS latest book/brochure it explaines all good stuff (electrical) in 'laymens' terms.
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Reply By: Member - Jiarna (NT) - Wednesday, Dec 28, 2005 at 06:02
Wednesday, Dec 28, 2005 at 06:02
I used a 12V power supply from Jaycar, and during one trip it caught fire. Now I have an inverter that runs the laptop as
well as my mobile phone charger and rechargeable battery pack charger for the camera. Not certain what type of inverter, but it's probably the modifed sine wave type. I reckoned that if my 240V gear could survive dirty Outback power supplies, it could cope with either type of inverter.
Just my 1.8 cents worth
John
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Reply By: tony/julie - Wednesday, Dec 28, 2005 at 11:22
Wednesday, Dec 28, 2005 at 11:22
Have just returned
home from 4 1/2 months on road we used a cig plug adaptor from jaycar to power up the laptop no worries for us, also used a minimax from telstra for internet service, works on CDMA network bit expensive, however good were ever your CDMA phones, work very good means of comunication.
Good Luck with it Tony
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Reply By: AAWoody - Thursday, Dec 29, 2005 at 15:30
Thursday, Dec 29, 2005 at 15:30
Thanks Everyone ! It is a little clearer to me now, I have a few choices & will investigate further.
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