Relays & Fridge
Submitted: Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 00:59
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Member JD
Hi All,
Would a relay help the running of your fridge?It's a long run to the back of the truck,what do you think??..I'm running a 80lt Waeco at the moment maybe a relay would help ???.
JD
Reply By: V8 Troopie - Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 01:27
Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 01:27
All a relay does is switch power on and off remotely. You still need to run the power to the fridge.
So, your question is a bit cryptic??
Klaus
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 01:57
Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 01:57
I have had a relay on a fridge but it was a 3 way and the relay was to turn off the power with the ignition in case you forgot and were on 12 volt
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Reply By: Member - Ian H (NSW) - Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 07:29
Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 07:29
I also have a Waeco 80 in an 80 series L/C and a relay is not needed. The purpose of a relay is to allow a light duty switch to control a high amp load appliance. Just run the correct size cable from your battery to the fridge, with a fuse at the battery (on the + ). Dont use the car body as the - , use a twin cable. I have no problem with this setup. The instructions with the fridge give you cable size to use but I did go a bit bigger just to be sure. Hope that helps keep the beer cold.
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Follow Up By: Member JD- Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 09:35
Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 09:35
Hi Ian H,
Thanks for the reply,l run quite heavy wires rite back to the fridge,but earth it the body at the back,l will run an earth cable back to the battery,l was just thinking that it would relay full power to fridge on such a long run,as they do for spoties,Merry Xmas.
JD
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Follow Up By: Mainey (WA) - Tuesday, Dec 27, 2005 at 20:58
Tuesday, Dec 27, 2005 at 20:58
JD,
do it as Ian H (NSW) has said and you will not have battery problems, run the (-) wires back to the (-) post on the battery (NOT the body) with a decent fuse on the (+) cable at the battery.
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Reply By: 4145derek - Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 08:39
Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 08:39
Hi Derek
Best to keep the wire 'Clean' and 'Heavy'
Run a 6mm2 or 8mm2 wire from the battery to the rear. No relays or switches. They cause resistance and lower the run time on 1 full charge.
Regards Derek.
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Follow Up By: Member JD- Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 09:39
Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 09:39
Hi Derek,
Thanks for your reply,just thought a relay might assist on a long wire run,to get more...full power back to the fridge.Merry Xmas.
JD
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Reply By: Keith_A (Qld) - Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 11:32
Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 11:32
Hi JD - With Spotlights, normally the Battery is up the front, and the Spotlights are up the front. Rather than run heavy cable from the battery, back inside the cabin to the switch, then up to the spotlights, a relay is used.
Heavy wire is run from the battery to the relay, then to the spotlights.
A thin wire (to trigger or switch the relay) is run from the relay into the cabin to the switch on the dash, then to a power source (accessories fuse etc).
For high power devices (Spot Lights/fridge etc) they need heavy cable, and the shorter the cable the less the voltage loss.
A relay helps keep the thick cable as short as possible.
A relay also lets you run thin wire to the switch, which often have small terminals.
So - if you want a switch mounted on your dash, so you can turn on/off the fridge in the back, then a relay would certanly do the trick. Mount the relay close to the battery.
Naturally you still need the full length of heavy cable to supply the power from the battery to the relay, and down to the fridge.
regards..........
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Follow Up By: Member JD- Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 12:27
Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 12:27
Hi Kieth_A,
Thanks for taking time to answer my query,what you have stated here l prety much understand,but would it be better for the battery more power...without power drop..or would it suck more juice???..mines set up and working
well but..maybe it could be more proficient??.Merry Xmas.
JD
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Follow Up By: Keith_A (Qld) - Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 13:20
Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 13:20
Hi JD - The only way to minimise power loss is to use thick cable (and good connectors each end).
As current flows down a wire, the impurities in the copper ( and the back EMF from fields around the cable) cause a resistance - evidenced by the heating of the wire.
The thicker the wire - the less the losses from the cable.
The current draw is determined by the load -eg the fridge, the air compressor or whatever you connect it to. Naturally the relay cannot change this load.
You may be aware of Collyn Rivers excellent article on wiring -
http://www.caravanandmotorhomebooks.com/articles/index.htm
Go to 'Making Fridges Work - PART 2' then scroll down to Auto Cable.
Hope this is of interest....Merry Xmas.....Keith
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Follow Up By: Member JD- Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 14:24
Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 14:24
Thanks Kieth, especially for taking the time Xmas eve,my nature is to do the job to the letter,l was trying to think outside the sqare..LOL..l will definately study this site.
Thanks again and have a safe and Happy Xmas.
JD
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