Complimentary Service

Submitted: Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 16:32
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Put the Cruiser in for its free complimentary service which the dealer was keen to do.

This service centre has a waiting room above the service area where you can observe the work being done if you open the vertical screens - which I did. The eagle-eyed 14yr old was with me. Here is what happened.

The service took three hours and 2.5 hours the fourby sat in the carpark. For the half hour it was in the service centre a young fellow opened the bonnet and left it for about 25 mins.

When he returned he blackened the tyres and (inexplicably) sprayed some chemical lightly in the engine bay before closing it. Service finished.

Who else has had a complimentray service for a new car and what is the point?
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Reply By: Member - Geoff M (Newcastle) - Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 16:40

Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 16:40
Did you point out to the Manager the service on your vehicle was poor value for money?
You could have stayed home for less and achieved more!!

Then again, what did the dealer promise from the service?

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Follow Up By: ev700 - Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 17:03

Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 17:03
Geoff M
Hi, the free complimentary service inspection is provided for in the warranty and service book.

Says "check for normal operation of the engine and drivetrain, condition of exhaust system, brake pipes, hoses, steering and suspension linkages, drive shaftboots and couplings, door lock adjustmenbt and body exterior. Inspect brake/clutch pedal free-play and park brake adjustment".

The warranty and service book was not stamped so I guess they enter it in their computer.

I have never been in a position to watch before. It was an interesting experience. The vehicle did not go on a hoist.

I will try a different dealer next.
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Follow Up By: hl - Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 17:58

Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 17:58
Yes, the mystery of why people feel so comfortable when the service book has been stamped.
Cheers

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Reply By: Keith_A (Qld) - Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 16:51

Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 16:51
I had complementary spark plugs replaced in my Diesel.
I was supposed to pay for them as they were on the service Bill.
Sort of complementary service - Petrol service for a Diesel.
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Follow Up By: ev700 - Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 17:31

Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 17:31
Keith_A

It is a turbo diesel. Didn't need sspark plugs though ;-)

I am now after recommendations for a relaible service centre within about 10 radius of Brisbane cbd.

I think Toyota tries its best to ensure a fair go from dealers but I guess their quality assurance people can't be there watching. Might be a good idea if they routinely surveyed buyers though.

Dealers encourage you to drop and pick up vehicles so you never really know what is done. I wouldn't have been around however I bought the vehicle from a place that is a bit away from home and the wife was too busy to pick me up that day.

EV700
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Reply By: Willem - Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 16:55

Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 16:55
Funny

Almost word for word .....this was posted here on the forum about a year or so ago when a bloke took his Hilux in for its 1000km service
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Follow Up By: ev700 - Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 17:09

Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 17:09
Willem

The book says the service can be performed 'within 3 months from the date of delivery.....and expires 3 months or 5,000 km'.

I wasn't expecting much, but I thought they'd check fluids and tyre pressure. But sadly, no.

It had done over 4000 km so it would have helped me if they could have lubricated the steering - which I now understand has to be done every 5000 km.

EV700

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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 17:27

Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 17:27
Hmmm yes.

I service my Patrol myself but the Xtrail gets serviced by the Nissan Dealer as it is still under warranty. I have no way of directly accessing or checking the servicing thereof. However I mark the filters with a felt pen and check if they have been replaced. Then at least I know that something has been done.

Some dealers are unscrupulous.
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Follow Up By: ev700 - Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 17:43

Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 17:43
Willem

The felt pen is a good tip.

You would think though that where you put more custom towards the dealer you bought from originally, the service would be done diligently.

EV700
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Reply By: Original Banjo (SA) - Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 17:57

Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 17:57
Sounds almost too hard to believe Ev........but, I had much the same experience(though I was not on site - the evidence was clear enough though)-I took them to task over it - they marked me of course and paid me back later - lesson is that you can't win - in the end they of course have lost me as a client (they couldn't give a hoot). In my view the MAIN ISSUE HERE is that the factory may have overlooked importantissues like fluids etc - these corrupt dealers would never pick these sorts of things up - I was about to go bush for 2 weeks - !
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Follow Up By: ev700 - Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 21:32

Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 21:32
Original Banjo

Yes, I was surprised that they didn't even bother with a cursory check.

It is not my first new car and previously I have dropped the vehicle in for the day as suggested by the dealer.

Frankly the way servicing is organised, few people would get to see if their vehicle actually gets on a hoist or not.

I think some do the very obvious work but the rest is forgotten.

What bothers me is that good mechanics and good service centres are tarred with the same brush as those who give the trade a bad name.

EV700
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Reply By: Dazmit - Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 17:57

Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 17:57
Hi ev700

Any hints on who the dealer was so I know to avoid them ???

Cheers

Darryl
TD 100 series
Brisbane
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Follow Up By: Dazmit - Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 18:00

Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 18:00
Ps - I have used 4X4XMore a few times and everything appeared to have been dne correctly - I have marked filters etc and also obseved them working on the vehicle.

Cheers

Darryl
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Follow Up By: ev700 - Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 21:34

Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 21:34
Not Brisbane metro area.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 18:48

Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 18:48
I think that dealer is fantastic and you shuld go back to them.
If they don't touch anything, then they won't stuff it up :-))))

The last couple of new vehicles we've bought have never been back to a dealer. I find the peace of mind more important to me than the worry of having a vehicle stuffed up. I've had some nasty experiences in the past.

Cheers
Phil
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Follow Up By: hl - Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 20:23

Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 20:23
so very true
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Follow Up By: Rick (S.A.) - Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 21:12

Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 21:12
Phil, I'm with you on the value of peace of mind. I'm (relatively) happy to pay for that.

So, where do you go?

Cheers for Chrissy
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 00:53

Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 00:53
Hi Rick,

I do all my own maintenance and repairs. For anything I can't handle, I'd use Alltrac on South Rd. For other stuff like radiators/ air cond etc, I use Motor Radiators in Halifax St (Trevor is my next door neighbour).

Yeah, all the best as well.
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 18:55

Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 18:55
I would think this first sevice is to try and pick any faults nat picked up in the validation part of the manafacturing. It would also gove you a chance to get fixed anything that just hadent been manafactured right (eg some rattle somewhere)
The problem is if it wasnt under warranty you would also have got a 1500$ bill as well for all the things they had to fix
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Follow Up By: Outbacktourer - Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 22:07

Friday, Dec 23, 2005 at 22:07
First service is to get you to know where the service dept is, to figure out how to get to and from by public transport. In othere words how to say baaaa and get on they conveyor belt. They are meant to do what you have described in pre-delivery but that is another topic altogether!
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Follow Up By: GOB & denny vic member - Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 11:47

Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 11:47
hey outback
you got the baaaaa right because you go to dealers to get FLEECED

steve
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Reply By: Member - Nobby - Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 11:47

Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 11:47
Hey Ev, wouldn't have been Oldmac at Springwood would it. I put my new Prado in last week for it's 1K service and what you described is exactly what happened to me. Saw the whole process from the eagles nest.
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Follow Up By: ev700 - Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 15:58

Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 15:58
Nobby
A place with vertical curtains.
EV700
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Follow Up By: ev700 - Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 16:02

Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 16:02
- Just to confirm that I meant vertical blinds.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 19:50

Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 19:50
With all due respect, there is bugger all to do at the 1000k service. Most of it can be checked as the drive it into the workshop. The tyre stuff and the shiny engine spray is to make the owner feel like something useful was actually done.

I'm much happier if they leave it well alone. When I took delivery of a new Prado in 2002, I was proud of the fact that it escaped almost 3 years of driving without having that cosmetic muck sprayed on the engine :-)) And I bought the 79series second hand, and one of the big selling points was that the owner did his own servicing. I phoned him up and he gave me the blurb. Happiest day this year was when the warranty ran out and I didn't have to worry about it any more :-))

Cheers
Phil
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Follow Up By: ev700 - Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 20:57

Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 20:57
For many years I did my own servicing and can confirm the benefits of it.

However I got older and vehicles got more complex.

I have never placed high value on the service books except to see who bought the vehicle originally (check for hire fleet). I know the service given by various dealers to the company cars of my previous employer was very average.
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Reply By: Member - Bradley- Sunday, Dec 25, 2005 at 17:19

Sunday, Dec 25, 2005 at 17:19
yep, sad but true.

back in the bad old days when i did a stint as a "holden technician" the dealer i was at did actually do something at the first service. We used to check all the fluids, a lot of autos needed a top up, and usually the engines needed a dribble of oil as the rings were still bedding in. Found a few cars without air filters fitted, and commodore steering rack mount bolts were also often loose. Not to mention the basic stuff like spraying the battery terminals with corrosion preventative, topping up the windscreen washer, tyre pressures etc etc..

We also cleaned the car inside and out, so it was like the owner was picking up a new car again, it gave a nice sense of pride in the job.

We also actually did a proper pre delivery inspection, which most dealers nowdays dont do. they have monkeys with the title "accessory fitter" which means hopeless butcher who fits mudflaps etc.

Its a discrace nowdays, our new astra needed some warranty work done and so we gave the first paid service to the dealer to do it all in one go, well of course they stuffed it all up, and i got the vehicle home to find a complimentary pair of cotton gloves inbetween the intake manifold and block, the dipstick not even fitted back in its tube, and a litre short on oil. Mind you i gave them 5 litres of synthetic to put in, and i got back a car with 4 litres of mineral crappola.

The car itself has been great, the only trouble has been with anything the dealer has fitted or touched - no real surprise there i guess. But they do keep sending nice marketing letters telling us the next service could be due, hope we are happy with the car and their great service 1 year on ....

It seems the best you can do nowdays is to buy the car for full price, get ripped on lots of accessories, pay top dollar to the same dealer for servicing, and then maybe they might actually do some warranty work on it for you, or give a bleep e in general, NA WHO AM I KIDDIN, you'll still get shafted.......
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