Prado T/D - Do I go manual or auto

Submitted: Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 08:14
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G'day people,

Well I am just about to order myself a new Prado T/D - I am just stuck on whether it should be a Manual or the Auto.

I am inclined to go with the manual as I would think it would just be the better option with the diesel engine.... is this miguided? What do you guys think is the best tranny for the diesel?

Thanks in advance for your help!!
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Reply By: gramps - Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 08:19

Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 08:19
If I was buying and planning a fair bit of sand driving, I'd go the auto. Just my $0.02 worth :)
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Reply By: Member - JD - Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 08:20

Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 08:20
Hi Meaticus,
My choice is auto,set and forget,and a lot of folk with 20 yrs plus 4wd experience are going to autos as well gotta be saying something,Hope this helps.Merry Xmas.
JD
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 08:23

Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 08:23
If you had asked the same question a year ago I would have said Go Manual. Today I would say GO Auto.
With the gearbox's in the vehicles now they are a lot stronger and with a diesel they seem to be able to find the right quicker than the driver. Even using engine braking they seem to work very well.
The traction control and the auto make the vehicle very capable.

Wayne
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 09:36

Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 09:36
I also agree auto. If you asked me 18mths ago i would of said manual. Not that i am unhappy with it at all it's just that I drove an auto patrol and actually enjoyed it. You have to modify your driving style a little with the driving through brakes on decents because of the lack of engine braking but no other cons that I can think of.

Leroy
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Follow Up By: flappa - Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 11:28

Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 11:28
I would normally agree , but the TD Prado's are so GROSSLY underpowered , the auto would be a PITA.

The auto in the V6 is a quality piece of kit.

I dont know if the new Hilux comes in auto or not , but , THAT would be an interesting comparison.
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Reply By: fester3 - Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 09:13

Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 09:13
I've always driven a manual forby, but after a particularly difficult run down the West Coast of the Cape in a manual cruisera few years ago, I swore the next one I got would be an auto as my left leg was threatening to drop off. I now have an auto Prado diesel and couldnt be happier.

Rgds Fester.
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Reply By: Turbo Diesel - Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 09:30

Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 09:30
Manual, or wait to the CRD motor comes out and then order manual of auto which ever arrives first. Manual is the best tranmission in the prado personnally driving both i thought the manual just had better response the turbo prado has not got that much power just enough for get up and go, thats why i would wait for the CRD to come out. I was ready to buy the old hilux td but read about the new one coming out so waited a year to get it. Can't keep the smile of my face.
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Follow Up By: meaticus - Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 09:36

Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 09:36
I have heard and read about the new common rail but I am able to secure the current engine model for $40k (inc. all the extras).... that is in manual guise? I think this is quite a good price - do you think I would be best waiting, and paying a premium for the new one .... ??
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Follow Up By: Turbo Diesel - Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 10:38

Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 10:38
If you can buy a prado for 40k you are in luck, however if you are patient i would wait for the new motor, however toyota are just as likely to put IRS on the new model and you will kick yourself for waiting it is a hard decision. Talke the SR5 Hilux TD for a drive and compare it to the prado and then make a decision. The current model prado diesel responds well to a bit of tweaking and you can generally get an extra 20kw out of it.
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Follow Up By: meaticus - Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 11:07

Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 11:07
Awwwwrrrrr man, now you have me thinking the Hilux might be a better car for the money .... I love the new SR5 Hilux...

Now I'm all conflicted.....

Hilux v Prado .... which one will take the cake?
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Follow Up By: Turbo Diesel - Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 11:14

Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 11:14
I just went through this same thing with the wife, we opted for the SR5 Hilux, we go camping on the beach mostly and will do the once every 3 year trip to the cape. The prado suffers personally in my opinion from a lack of room in the back for luggage, the lux with the new engine and a biger tray along with increased comfort has made us very happy with our decision. The biggest factor, it is a brand new model and will be the current shape for a long time which allows good resale value, however you are approaching the end of the Prado's current shape, it will be due for an overhaul soon. GO THE LUX!
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 11:27

Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 11:27
Meaticus ,
I am not absolutely sure , but I think auto is unavailabe in a Hilux TD .
Willie .
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Follow Up By: meaticus - Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 11:29

Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 11:29
Thanks for the info there mate .... The 'leader of the opposition' just wont go with a Hilux - she calls it a Truck.... but I digress.

I am thinking maybe there is some merit in going to petrol engine Prado, plenty of mumbo in that engine ... any thoughts?
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Follow Up By: Turbo Diesel - Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 11:31

Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 11:31
Auto is available on all SR and SR5 spec models, goes great too. I have an opinion that the best auto box toyota make is in the 100 series, Personally i feel the manual is better in the lux, the 100 series is unstopable in the auto form. But the hilux just feels more like a lux in manual form. Just my opinion. However if i bought a 100 series i would go the auto.
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Follow Up By: Turbo Diesel - Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 11:40

Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 11:40
It is a hard thing for me to recommend a petrol, I'm a diesel person all the way. However the 4L VVTI V6 is probably Toyota's best petrol motor in the 4wd range. Furthermore it is set to be released in the new 130 series cruiser as a V6 option to the V8. So the good news is that the 4L V6 should be here to stay. In saying that they have bucket loads of power and respond well to snorkel and extractors. (Thats another subject) THe V6 is unreal in auto form, plus the other half wil love it, you just have to drive it differently to the turbo diesel, back off the juice and you will avoid whell spin and get where you want to go. Uses about 13-16l per 100 with a heavy foot. Petrol = auto, turbo diesel = manual in the prado only.
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Reply By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 09:34

Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 09:34
Meaticus,
I have an auto TD Cruiser and have done more than 10,000 klm through the WA deserts , always in the company of manual wagons . They spend all day changing gears , I just sit there and glide along . Brilliant in the sand and rocks and great for towing .
My mate has a manual TD diesel Prado and it is a dog to drive . First gear gets you nowhere .
I have had four manual 4WDs before this current auto - I would never buy a manual again .
Cheers ,
Willie .
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Reply By: flappa - Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 09:38

Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 09:38
With the Prado , and still using the older motor , I think the Manual would be a better idea.

The prado is quite underpowered and as good as the auto is , its seems to hunt for gears around hills.

The manual would better cope with that.

If it was almost any other vehicle , I would say go auto.

There is NOTHING worse though , then an underpowered car , ANY car , and an auto.
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Reply By: Member - Stan (VIC) - Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 11:36

Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 11:36
Go Auto and if you decide to go with the diesel option you can get Dtronic later on...
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Reply By: ShnogDog - Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 14:03

Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 14:03
Auto gets my vote
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Follow Up By: Axle - Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 18:05

Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 18:05
If heavy towing is to be done , might have to think a bit? autos tend to hunt up and down in hard going. fuel consumption.?
Cheers Axle
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 16:59

Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 16:59
The auto boxes in the Prados are stronger than the manual boxes and clutch.
They hold their resale better. They are obviously easier to drive and more forgiving for general 4wding. Just got to learn a few tricks for the steep hills.

I've always owned manuals, but can understand why most go the autos these days.

Cheers
Phil
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Reply By: 120scruiser - Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 21:09

Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 21:09
Just bought an auto diesel prado in July.
Has now done 14 000 km including Simpson.
The auto has plenty of low down grunt off the mark but runs out of puff up high on the highway. I went auto for resale and ease of driving in the rough stuff.
The auto is a little heavy on fuel than I thought it would be but mine is going into toyota tomorrow for a check up on whats going on.
Yes it does suffer from a small luggage area and the center seat in the middle row is uncomfortable. It is very quiet a pleasant to drive.
The new engine would be the pick if you can wait but I couldn't wait so bought one now.
Try my pages Prado Information You may pick something up.
Best of luck.
120scruiser
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Reply By: desert - Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 21:43

Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 21:43
If driving in the city go auto. If towing a lot of the time, likewise. If playing in the mountains, then manual. If drinvng in the desert, toss-up. Auto's cost more to run, service and purchase use slightly more juice.Also impossible to tow start if stranded somewhere remote.
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Follow Up By: Brian Bentley - Tuesday, Dec 20, 2005 at 07:26

Tuesday, Dec 20, 2005 at 07:26
I totally agree with you, You can also do burnouts easier with a manual, autos are for chicks!
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Reply By: stevep - Tuesday, Dec 20, 2005 at 00:02

Tuesday, Dec 20, 2005 at 00:02
I have had an auto TD prado for 2 years and have just clocked up 100,000 km and couldn't be happier and will probably buy another prado next year.

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