crush washers

Submitted: Saturday, Dec 17, 2005 at 16:59
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g'day all
i was buying the oil & filter for the nav. the other day and came to mind about something i had neglected to change,the simple little copper crush washer on the sump plug,so i got 4,got home drained the oil, inspected the washer it was stuffed.just a small something to keep in mind.
leaving the 21st for Q.L.D so an early merry christmas to all.
cheers toohey.
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Reply By: 120scruiser - Saturday, Dec 17, 2005 at 17:16

Saturday, Dec 17, 2005 at 17:16
Good pick up Toohey
We change every sump plug washer with every service in our workshop.
Its not worth compromising 10 000 dollar engines because oil leaks out of a 1 dollar seal.
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Reply By: Alloy c/t - Saturday, Dec 17, 2005 at 17:24

Saturday, Dec 17, 2005 at 17:24
Bought a Futomo drain plug /valve/ tap that replaces the sump plug , easiest oil change system going and no more chasing or forgetting crush washers ,,,, or dropping plug into hot oil drain pan ,also magic for taking oil sample or if overfilled.
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Saturday, Dec 17, 2005 at 18:05

Saturday, Dec 17, 2005 at 18:05
G'day mate,
Yeh, I bought one of those too and due to my newish dual remote-head bypass oil filtration system, I haven't yet had to drop the oil for the past 17,000klm. But it was always a hassle getting a sample to send off to Castrol for anaylsis, so I recently had the idea of fitting the Futomo tap to the dual head unit and it made it sooooo easy to get a sample of the oil a couple of days ago. Not what it was specifically designed for, but suits my purposes.
Cheers mate
Roachie
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Follow Up By: Ron173 - Saturday, Dec 17, 2005 at 18:23

Saturday, Dec 17, 2005 at 18:23
Alloy c/t,

sounds a marvellous gadget, wouldnt mind one on my Nav.

How much are they and where can you buy them?

My only concern would be that I'd have to wire the valve shut, as I'd be paranoid it was going to open under normal running or worse be opened by something tugging it off road, like a branch.

Or is there a failsafe fitted? any pics or site link?

thanks

Ron

You dont have a method for getting filter out without spillage do you?
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Follow Up By: GOB & denny vic member - Sunday, Dec 18, 2005 at 20:54

Sunday, Dec 18, 2005 at 20:54
goodday bill
how do you think this tap will work under the nissan it seems like a good idea if its not going to rub off

steve
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 13:26

Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 13:26
G'day Steve,
AFAI can see this would be quite okay under the Patrol (on the 4.2 anyway). The sump plug is off to one side of the sump and is a fair way up above the axle, steering arms etc. I cannot imagine how a stick or anything else could get up there and do what is necessary (ie: push and turn at the same time; bit like a child-proof medicine bottle etc). The lever itself is not very big and needs downward pressure to be applied with finger/thumb etc and then to be turned 90 degrees.
As the web site says too, if you are worried about it, just get a length of wire or a proper sprung-loaded clip to seat in the groove that the lever archs through and that would solve any potential problems.
Cheers mate
Roachie
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Reply By: joc45 - Saturday, Dec 17, 2005 at 17:28

Saturday, Dec 17, 2005 at 17:28
The last time I bought filters from Nissan, they sold me a washer; only problem it was the wrong one!! Would have used as much cost in fuel taking it back as the cost of the washer. Just won't go back there in future. Luckily, the old washer was still ok.
Gerry
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Reply By: GOB & denny vic member - Saturday, Dec 17, 2005 at 18:21

Saturday, Dec 17, 2005 at 18:21
goodday fellas
1 youre right toohey i buy 5 at a time best way i dont get seniors moments and forget

2 whats this valve /,tap thingy and how much. do they hang below the sump where they can be damaged /ripped off

steve
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Saturday, Dec 17, 2005 at 19:03

Saturday, Dec 17, 2005 at 19:03
Yea, I agree with GOB buy several at a time.

I also keep 4 spare of the locking washers for the wheelbearings in the console - I never reuse em
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Reply By: Alloy c/t - Saturday, Dec 17, 2005 at 21:21

Saturday, Dec 17, 2005 at 21:21
www.autospeed.com.au then go to search, oil change , cost = round $50 ,, saves time /money/ frustration and skinned nuckles ,, requires 2x positive movements to open valve so buckleys chance for failure.
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Reply By: gottabjoaken - Sunday, Dec 18, 2005 at 17:55

Sunday, Dec 18, 2005 at 17:55
Tap drain plugs are great.

They get ripped off the first time your sump drags on the centre of the track, and the oil drains out perfectly.

Ken
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Sunday, Dec 18, 2005 at 20:08

Sunday, Dec 18, 2005 at 20:08
Dribble ??? first hand experience or mate of a mates 3rd cousin 4 times removed bul--hit ?? if you truly knew the system you would know that its impossible to accidently open the tap ,,you would have to rip the whole sump off before the tap touches any blo--dy thing ,, as I said YOU DRIBBLE.
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Follow Up By: gottabjoaken - Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 09:16

Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 09:16
Thanks for your opinion, Alloy c/t.

Just as valid as mine. Maybe just as correct too.

With a plug mounted under the sump, I would be far happier with just the head of the plug protruding, than the body of the tap.

Dragging it through the mud of the centre of the track when there are wheel ruts would do wonders for it, and the odd rock or stick would help even more.

I agree that the brass thread portion is probably failrly strong, but to me it doesn't seem like a risk worth taking if the vehicle is used off road.

Different for the Toorak taxi variety of 4wd of course.
This device would be in its element there, and would be a godsend to the service departments when changing oil. No struggling with removing the plug. I agree.

Ken
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Reply By: hoyks - Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 14:38

Monday, Dec 19, 2005 at 14:38
I have never replaced a crush washer. A few wraps of plumbers thread tape and the oil never makes it to the washer.
You don't have to torque the plug up to 300ft-lbs either as some mechanics insist on doing.
We had to hook a hand winch onto a pipe over the spanner to get the filler plug out of my sister's car once. Broke a ratchet on it before that.
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