Are ARB being dodgey?

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Went to ARB the other day to price old man emu suspension.Ive heard its a good aussie reliable brand.Well the ARB rep told me all materials are shipped overseas and now made by cheap overseas labour but using Aussie engineers and steel.When I asked what country it was,the rep said that no one could tell ARB which country.Is this a bit of a crock or does anyone have any facts about this situation.I,m really just curious.Thanks.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 00:48

Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 00:48
Bovine Faeces.

Bars and others are made overseas now..
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Follow Up By: gramps - Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 03:01

Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 03:01
Including Engel fridges :)))
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Reply By: Rock Crawler - Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 07:15

Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 07:15
dont forget old man emu suspention is only arb's brand , shocks purchased from munro and springs from kings . Bullbars made here , rear bars , not sure
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Follow Up By: vitara - Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 08:41

Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 08:41
Hi there Rock crawler, is this fair dinkum about shocks from munro and springs from kings. Am just about to relace my'n all round on the old hilux, and I did look at the munro compared to ome but thought no I'll stick to ome as I am very happy with the way it rides you don't need a kidney belt. ????
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 08:57

Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 08:57
But the shox will be valved to ARB spec and the springs wound using the dia steal and how ever many coils they specify. It's not just a case 'all these brand shox' are made by supplier X and are thefore the same! But I do know for a fact that they are made in the same factory because we made a labelling machine to slap the labels on both brands (munro and ome) of shox.
But there are other brands on the market that are equally as good and save you a few bucks. Ride Pro, EFS are gas shox and getting good feed back from buyers. I have OME but would try these brands next as I do find it a little harsh.

Leroy
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 11:58

Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 11:58
Bars are no longer being made here..
They are now being made Thailand!

They are made by Monroe, but to ARB Specs.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 21:36

Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 21:36
its changed to early 06 now, it was going to be finished already

so mate still has a job - for a while LOL

ARB heads offshore
By Ian Porter

SHARES in four-wheel drive accessories maker ARB Corporation rallied from two-year lows after the company revealed plans to build a plant in Thailand to get around the shortage of skilled labour in Australia.

The annual meeting yesterday also heard that, while sales of large four-wheel drive passenger vehicles might have slowed this year, ARB was focusing on the four-wheel drive utility market, which is growing rapidly.

Investors took heart from the comments by chairman Roger Brown, pushing the shares up 10¢ from $2.70, their lowest point since August 2003.

Mr Brown said the shortage of skilled labour was a serious concern for directors and had forced the company to built a plant in Thailand.

It would cost between $3 million and $6 million to establish, depending upon whether the premises were owned or leased, and would be operational by early 2006.

There were other reasons to select Thailand, he said.

"A large percentage of the pickup trucks sold around the world are produced in Thailand. Furthermore, there is a very strong local market in Thailand for these vehicles and associated accessories."

Mr Brown said the company was also expanding its retail network, with its new store in Brighton becoming profitable after two months. A new store is under construction in South Australia, and one is also planned for Wentworthville in Sydney.

ARB had 22 stores around the country and also had several independent retailers handling its range, giving the company the strongest after-market distribution network in the industry, he said.
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Reply By: Kiwi Ray - Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 09:16

Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 09:16
Hi J.T.
Shop around at your local spring maker, you may find you can get better for less
A good spring maker can measure your old springs then custom make to your needs, plus they will be hot coiled and tempered.
Ray
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Follow Up By: Austravel - Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 11:39

Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 11:39
Exactly. For half the price I got similar or better qualilty gear from Dobinsons in Rockhampton. Yep it's a plug. Always had good work from them in my GQ and now the GU.
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Reply By: John L G - Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 11:42

Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 11:42
J.T.

I have been in Newman for a number of years now and replaced shocks on the 75 series.

All they use up here on the mine vehicles are Monroes and I was also informed that they make the OME shocks. So fitted Monroes, saved a heap and the car still does what its supposed to do with out all the shock hype.

John G
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Reply By: Gossy - Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 11:43

Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 11:43
have a look at the TJM XGS brand. You will not be dissapointed!
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Reply By: banjodog - Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 17:02

Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 17:02
As someone put it some time ago on this forum – XGS = eXpensive Gringo Shocks – they are Cofap, Mexico – same as Terrain Tamers’ Expanded Body Shock – but dearer – 35mm bore with a 60mm body.

I believe EFS ( Carrolls) suspensions are made here – BHP steel.

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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 21:37

Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 21:37
I ran them on my GQ, and they were great. I'd have em again if they did a bigger lift.

They are still runnin round on another GQ in Sydney at the moment 4 yrs later.
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Reply By: Sarg - Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 20:34

Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 20:34
Try to pick out a locally made product from this lot

www.automotive-online.com/ suspension-steering/shock-absorbers.html - 116k -
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Reply By: Michael_FNQ - Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 21:25

Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 21:25
all arb bar work is still made in oz, they did a media release the othe week to say they are setting up a factory in Thailand to supply usa. Cannot find enough workers here - non unemployment in Australia - just a lot of people who do not want to work.
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Follow Up By: gramps - Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 21:35

Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 21:35
Of course it would have absolutely nothing to do with the difference in wages, conditions etc. I think we're being just a little naive here.
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Reply By: Michael_FNQ - Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 21:56

Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 21:56
Not really - if you know of ANYONE who can weld or wants to learn to weld or is just keen for work ARB Kilsyth is always hiring. Fact of life that aussie companies move overseas to stay competative - plenty of companies in Thailand already copying ARB/TJM bars and selling them around the world!
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Follow Up By: gramps - Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 22:19

Tuesday, Dec 13, 2005 at 22:19
Michael,

Does'nt change or contradict my point at all. Re-inforces it actually. The move ARB are making to Thailand has absolutely nothing to do with people not wanting to work but everything to do with reducing the cost of production i.e difference in wages, conditions etc. They can't/won't reduce it any more in Oz.
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Reply By: bigun - Wednesday, Dec 14, 2005 at 09:06

Wednesday, Dec 14, 2005 at 09:06
g,day J.T
Im new to this site but may be able to help you with your decision having spent 4 years in a spring making factory doing an apprenticeship.

Whilst i agree with everybody else that this country is going to be in real financial trouble so long as our manufacturing facilities move offshore to become competitive , overseas manufactured springs should give you no problems so long as,
The steel is definately aussie made high carbon spring steel (which we will never know).
The heat tempering process is satisfactory as being high carbon steel it actually gets minute cracks in the spring which must be stress relieved to prevent cracking.
And thirdly the spring has been "scragged" correctly which is a process of compressing the spring numerous times till all coils touch which should prevent spring sag.
If you are not sure of any of these steps make sure you get a good warranty.

These are the basics in spring manufacture i could email a comprehensive start to finish manufacturing process if required.
Hope that helps bigun
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Follow Up By: J.T. - Wednesday, Dec 14, 2005 at 13:26

Wednesday, Dec 14, 2005 at 13:26
Bigun,Thanks for your reply and everyones.Im in W.A. so i will talk to a local spring manufacturer to see what they can do.Cheers.
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