Some more on Spike anti-4wd campaign

I wish someone would put a "I win if we crash" sticker on my car. Perhaps I'll have one made up.

I think it's pretty good. Might slow the small car sales if they realise the death traps they are driving LOL.

Perhaps even the "I'm twice as likely to kill you". Nothing to do with my 4x4 just the axe behind the back seat!!

Its one of the joys of living in a democracy that we put up with the 'Conspiracy Theoryists' - members of the 'Flat Earth Society' and extreme elements of the 'lunatic fringe' . Long live diverity..it would be a boring old place if we were all the same.

Regards

"I'm twice as likely to kill you" and "I win if we crash".

Where do I get one of these stickers?

Please put me down for five of each sticker they are great, i will put one next to the ban stupid pedestrans not bull bars sticker that i have.

all well and good

but if you catch them putting such a sticker on your car.

take their number plate and report them for vanderlism and graffiti on your car.

a criminal conviction should dampener there spirits plus the 1000 dollar cost from
the panel beater for his time to fix up the adhesive marks left behind.

of course if you told him it should be 1000 dollars to fix it im sure he would understand and charge accordingly

gra

This bloke likes raising the emotions.

1. Us gallon is less than aussie gallon, so don't believe the mpg figures.
2. I get about the same l/100k around town as my friends in commodes and fallcons.

I like raising the issue about 4wds at BBQs wtih friends. Try this next time.
Don't argue about the emotional stuff about 4wds being dangerous, agree as any car is dangerous.
Ask them to be the legislator writing the legislation.
1. 4wd are the problem - we ban all 4wds? including subarus, 4wd magnas? No?
2. height is the problem - we ban all 4wds over a certain height? And all vans and caravans and ...? No?
3. weight is the problem - so we ban anything over 1700kg tare, and anything under 1000kg tare? including fords, commodores, luxury vehicles? No?
If 2000kg tare, my pajero is OK, and alot of other 4wds.
4. braking and car dynamics is the problem - so we ban anything that doesn't meet dynamic requirements such as delivery vehicles and older cars, and cars that are just badly designed? No?
5. We ban 4wds by make and model? OK, but how do we get them from storage to the county roads.
6. What area do we ban them from? City areas? what about regional cities like Newcastle? Non capital city peole deserve as much protection from these monsters as any one else. How does a 4wd drive around the banned areas to access the country roads they are allowed to drive on?

7. OK - so now we have a ban worked out, how many extra police cars or survellience cameras are we going to put on the roads to catch all these law breakers.
8. Do we get reduced registration and insurance costs due to limited use in less dangerous areas where there are less accidents?

Can you see all this happening? Discuss it with your friends and lets get some logic into the argument.

Having had my bike licence before car and ridden bikes in Melb as motorcycle courier for a brief period thisbleepzen is a little ironic. I have been forced the wrong side of safety zones at tram stops and forced out of my lane on the freeway after having d'head sit on my back wheel for several k's first, nevermind all other lanes were free. This was I presume because these pelicans were in the larger vehicle and felt they could. Having experienced this sort of driving I don't condone it but isn't it ironic how people moan and bleat when they feel a little threatened / vulnerable. Yes lets ban everything except motorbikes.

Here are some more questions to ask.

1. How many 4x4 have been confiscated under the WA hoon laws?

2. How many 4x4 do you see racing each other and weaving thru the traffic on the freeways?

3. How many sets of 4 wheel donuts do you see on the back streets of industrial areas?

Answer to all above - NONE.

Bob